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G2 Rack or D. Smith Evolver
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:18 pm    Post subject: G2 Rack or D. Smith Evolver Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

With the new G2 rack about to hit the market, my interest has been peaked. I was saving up for the Evolver, but for another $300 there is the G2. As some of you know my main interest is in abstract ambient soundscapes. Do any of you have a recommendation? I already own NI's Reaktor, Absynth and Pro 53 as well an an Ion, Waldorf Q rack and XT. I'm always interested in evolving pads and unusual stabs. I have not had a chance to try either. I'm also interested in how either would work in a live situation.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't think it's a question of getting the Evolver or the G2. I think, after you get the G2, what of your existing gear can you get rid of? Very Happy

Seriously, the G2 is really fabulous, but it is for patchers. If you aren't into rolling your own sounds, you won't like the G2 a bit. If you like sound design, then what else is there that compares to the G2? I think a Kyma, but way more money, and a much steeper learning curve.

If his image doesn't lite your fire,

Posted Image, might have been reduced in size. Click Image to view fullscreen.

and this one does,

Posted Image, might have been reduced in size. Click Image to view fullscreen.

then get an Evolver.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I like to roll my own. But I also like to take others' patches and modify them to my taste. The G2 looks pretty amazing and a bit scary. My eyesight isn't great. Can you read the G2's editing parameters easily? I'm wondering how the rack engine will operate in a live setting. I hope you can assign parameters to a controller.
Plus how does the G2 sound in comparison to the Evolver? I imagine it's an apples and oranges comparison.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

My screen shot of the G2 editor is of a full hi res screen shrunk quite a bit. Here is a screen scrape of just a protion of the screen, but at actual size so you can get an idea how it looks in reality.

Posted Image, might have been reduced in size. Click Image to view fullscreen.

As you can see, there is a lot of detail, but it's readable. You can use a lower res screen than I and it will look bigger, but you won't be able to get as much on the screen.

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I like to roll my own. But I also like to take others' patches and modify them to my taste.


Sharing patches is one of the great things about the NM products. If you are working on a patch, I'm sure there will be people to help you work the bugs out, right here on this forum. With the NM products, you are never alone.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:36 pm    Post subject: Apples and Oranges Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

that is correct, I have a G2, G1, and an Evolver. the kinds of sounds the evolver can generate would be very difficult to create on a G2, I think. I have never heard anything else like the evolver and I have had a lot of synths since 1977 to the present.

That is not to say that either is better. just different. I have the first evolver model ($500), so it is not too big of an investment. I would like to get the poly when it comes out but you still need to first model for the controls. unless you intend to strictly edit using a computer.

I'd get both a g2 and an evolver. Trouble is, you do that and you end up getting three not two synths. If you must get just one, the g2 has far more modules to control. but the evolver just has that analog sound that can't be duplicated with a digital synth.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Since I already own a Q rack and an Ion, would it not be a bit redundant to get a G2? Or is the sound of the G2 just completely different than most VAs?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Jimh54, welcome to our site. welcome

Thanks for joining in this discussion. Since you have both synths in question here, I defer to your opinion. I wonder if you might post as an attachment an mp3 file of an example of the type(s) of sounds(s) the Evolver makes that would be difficult for the G2. Just curious.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
the G2 is really fabulous, but it is for patchers. If you aren't into rolling your own sounds, you won't like the G2 a bit.

I think that says it all. I am more interested in composing than sound designing, besides that I have such a huge collection of every possible sound that I think I will never be able to use them all anyway so why bother making new ones except for fine tuning existing sounds, effecting them etc. Question

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What interests me in the Evolver is the possibility of lengthy "evolving" pads. I'm assuming it can do that. Is that one of the Evolver's strengths Jimh54?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:02 am    Post subject: ...well ...i asked myself the same question. Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

and my answer was G2 (keyboard)

heres a snippet of what happens when two people collaberate in real time using a nord micromod, and a G2.

http://jakesdarocka.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/JandJ_FK4_21_04.mp3

....keep in mind i have only owned my G2 for about a week now Wink ...and im brand new to modular synthesis (altho i have messed around a little with an old buchla music easel a tad.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Jakeez, welcome to electro-music.com, and to the G2.

I listened to your track. I bit heavy on the echo and reverb to my taste, but that's just my bias. I'm also suffering from an ear infection right now, so don't take my feedback as negative. Keep on making music.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Mohoyoho wrote:
What interests me in the Evolver is the possibility of lengthy "evolving" pads. I'm assuming it can do that. Is that one of the Evolver's strengths Jimh54?


When you mean 'self playing patch' (or noodle) when you say 'evolving''pad' than the G2 would be very suitable ... using the inter-slot communication possibilities you would be able to create one huge self playing patch using all eight DSPs (on an expanded system).

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Jakeez, Ardmore is not far away - we should get together for a G2 jam some time - there are at least 4 of us in the area now!
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