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G2 supersaw/commercial trance demo
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:39 am    Post subject: G2 supersaw/commercial trance demo Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi,

Not sure if this has been mentioned here before, but just stumbled across this demo of a typical commercial trance supersaw type sound/sequence played on a G2. Band website with track using similar sequence is here. I can't see much information on the demo though. The band site is in Japanese.

Personally, I am not really into this kind of music, but it did strike me as a good demo of this style. I love my tech, trance, and ambient, but find this style to be very derivative.

Cheers,

Oli

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Impressive playing though - at least for a person with as clumsy fingers as myself. Shocked I thought everybody did this stuff with sequencers.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Antimon wrote:
Impressive playing though - at least for a person with as clumsy fingers as myself. Shocked I thought everybody did this stuff with sequencers.

/Stefan


Yeah, the keyboard playing is certainly much more skillful than my efforts.

I think sequencing this sort of thing is lot more convenient if one can at least play pretty close to what one wants, by hand. Just doing note entry on a sequencer can be a bit slow and tedious, compared to hashing something out on the keys, and it is not so easy to get good dynamic expression. At least, that's my experience anyway.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:07 pm    Post subject: Re: G2 supersaw/commercial trance demo Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oli wrote:
Hi,

Not sure if this has been mentioned here before, but just stumbled across this demo of a typical commercial trance supersaw type sound/sequence played on a G2. Band website with track using similar sequence is here. I can't see much information on the demo though. The band site is in Japanese.

Personally, I am not really into this kind of music, but it did strike me as a good demo of this style. I love my tech, trance, and ambient, but find this style to be very derivative.

Cheers,

Oli


How can you "hear" a saw in that?
I've never been able to distinguish the type of waveform in a song.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: G2 supersaw/commercial trance demo Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

cappy2112 wrote:
How can you "hear" a saw in that?
I've never been able to distinguish the type of waveform in a song.


Well, I can't distinguish the waveform. The reason I lebelled it a supersaw, was just that I believe this type of sequence has spawned from use of the JP8000 supersaw preset. Since then, there have been many derivations of early famous sequences, and many re-implementations of that style of patch. The waveform of the orginal patch is not really sawtooth anyway, as it is composed of multiple sawtooths, and then processed.

I can distinguish some wave shapes in tracks, meaning I can recognise the wave shape of oscillators used to build a sound. This is only by recognising sounds I have played with myself. Usually this is only possible for fairly simple sounds, which are not highly processed.

I believe I can recognice something like a simple sinusoidal bass, or a raw 303 square wave. That is not to say that I can hear its squareness, though. I think one can learn to recognise harmonic content of simple wave forms though.

I think it is the same as when deisgning a patch; one has some idea of how to achieve the sound one wants, bassed on past recognition of sounds. I think I mainly learned this as a child, playing on a Realistic Minimoog.

I could of course be wrong, but my guesses seem to correlate pretty well with what I hear when playing with synths.

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