| Would you buy a G2 expansion card that would make the G2 an Uber-Wave? |
| Yes, definitely, any price. |
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31% |
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| Only in a brand new G3 model |
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| For 500 €? Tomorrow. No, today! |
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| I don't need sampling in my G2. |
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| Hardware sampling? You must be kidding. |
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sebber

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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:08 am Post subject:
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The Blofeld Keys is considered to be a real Wave-attacker, with a price tag a whopping 2000€! cheaper. Since Clavia/Nord has the technique ready and going, but the G2 still having so many capabilities it's not time to replace it with a G3, making an expansion card for the G2 might bring a real boost for the G2. Making it actually the Ubersynth, IMHO.
I just wonder if it's just me who'd be willing to spend money on sampling features. _________________ Fish don't swim. They dive.
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seraph
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:44 am Post subject:
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Sebastian
if it was a feasible option they would not have come up with the Nord Wave or they would have presented the expansion card with sampling at the same time of the Wave.
So, my opinion is: "it's not going to happen" _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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sebber

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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:53 am Post subject:
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I don't agree with that, because they were the first one with the Nord Wave and they wouldn't want the G2 to chase their own product.
But now that Waldorf is really getting at them, they could as well be forced to reposition themselves, and this might be an option.
It's dreamdancing anyway, since the G2 was just discontinued and I don't think they'll dig it out right away. These things smell so fast and turn from red to slimy green.
If some of you tech guys know that this was not an option at all with the current platform, let us/me know. Just recently I heard that a simple thing like turning the G2 into a radio receiver gives a lot of trouble, so who knows
Is there something that really makes the Wave 4x more expensive than the Blofeld Keys? _________________ Fish don't swim. They dive.
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elektro80
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject:
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Uh.. off topic.. but.. "simple things as a radio receiver" hmm..
Well, it is pretty much the rule that pro audio devices are built in ways that rather restricts how much they will be able to mess about with RF. And that goes for digital devices as well. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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elektro80
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject:
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As for the G2, I don´t really see much wrong with it as it is now. One might have wished for certain things, like software editor updates, but that still doesn´ t make the G2 a bad instrument. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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ark

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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject:
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| sebber wrote: | | Is there something that really makes the Wave 4x more expensive than the Blofeld Keys? |
Here in the USA, the price difference is only slightly more than a factor of 2.
I think the Wave is made in Sweden. I wonder if the Blofeld is made in China? |
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Tim Kleinert

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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject:
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Purely hardware-wise, there's no comparison. The Blofeld offers editing via a page system with 4 encoders. AFAIK there are 6 encoders in total plus one normal pot for master volume, and 5 buttons. Compare that with the Wave: 33 pots, 3 encoders, 33 buttons -not counting all the blinkenlights.
Anyway. An expansion-card-type upgrade to add sampling features to the G2 is a technical impossibility. A complete PCB redesign would be necessary.
A G3 with sampling? Dream on, guys.  _________________
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dasz

Joined: Oct 16, 2004 Posts: 1624 Location: vancouver, canada
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sebber

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Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:25 am Post subject:
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Don't get me wrong, the G2 is fantastic as it is. I called a music store yesterday to ask for an expansion card and the dealer started to look for a similar product that he could sell me to replace the G2.
At that point I knew:
the guy has no clue.
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That I mentioned the radio again was just a joke. I should use more
Wave vs. Blofeld: I mixed up the prices, you are right. It's 800 to 2000. Making a really nice interface adds 500€ - see Evolver. If you happen to own a G2 keyboard version, btw, you own the ultimate flexible interface already and don't need anything else.
But this is not the place to discuss Wave vs. Blofeld. I just wanted to make an argument that they (Nord) could re-live the G2 by adding a sampling card. Most of the people I know use sampling as the basic sound source (which is just an observation and not an argument). Thanks, tim, for lightning me up that this is not easy to do at all.
Hm, looking up what a PCB is: do you say they would need to design a new card (which I assumed) or do you think they have to redesign the whole interior of the G2?
Dasz: sure! I'm just having fun thinking about if there could have been an easy way to save one of the best synths ever. And of course it's neat to have it all in one box. And I would have bought such a card tomorrow, no, today. _________________ Fish don't swim. They dive.
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