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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:30 am    Post subject: Musique Concrète Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey guys, not sure if I have this posted in the correct forum section, just been watching a documentary on Youtube on this genre of music. I was just wondering if there was anybody on EM that made this type of stuff, I have heard a few pieces lately but I dont know whether they could be referred to as Musique Concrète.



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I like to meddle in field recordings from time to time, and we do of course have the field recording project going on... http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-44137.html

I'm not sure whether what I do counts as musique concrete, but I have never been to aware of how genres work. An example... http://soundcloud.com/muied-lumens/astronomical-blue

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Musique Concrète is probably best described as a method rather than a genre.

BTW: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Schaeffer



And check out Musique Acousmatique ! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sorry for not contributing to the thread topic, but that's a killer picture of Scaeffer!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
Musique Concrète is probably best described as a method rather than a genre.

BTW: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Schaeffer



And check out Musique Acousmatique ! Very Happy


I see your point, and I agree with you. I really dont have much experience when it comes to this "method" or "genre" whichever term you wish to use. I do find it quite an interesting form of composition though.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think musique concrete was very much a product of its time -when tape recording was a new technology and composers like Schaeffer and the rest pushed it to its limits with editing techniques and varispeed decks. They also did a lot of pioneering work on harmonic and formant analysis which is still standard textbook stuff today. When sampling technology became mainstream in the late 1980's and 90's, it was very easy to manipulate and process recordings in the same way, so maybe that kind of closed the lid on it as a technique per se. Some of the works from the late 1950's are stunning when you consider what limited technology they had compared to now.
(nb the IRCAM in Paris is still a leading centre in sound analysis and processing).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

abstraktor wrote:
When sampling technology became mainstream in the late 1980's and 90's, it was very easy to manipulate and process recordings in the same way, so maybe that kind of closed the lid on it as a technique per se.

There was at least one research presentation+performance on this at June's International Computer Music Conference, in this case a software instrument composed of open source components for storing, indexing, searching and playing concrete samples at composition and improvisation time. When possible, technology should raise the bar on composition and performance without eliminating the heart of a technique.

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