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benjo
Joined: Apr 02, 2012 Posts: 2 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:11 pm Post subject:
Just finished a WSG - pics and a question |
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Although I've had some other basic electronics experience, this is certainly my first synth DIY project, and what a pleasure it was to build. I also must add that I was as inspired by this community as I was by Ray Wilson to get into this, so a big thanks for that.
I decided to make mine a bit angry, as the WSG can be known to make some excellently profane noises...
Some questions I'm hoping someone can answer:
I added a basic amp using an LM386, and I was having a lot of trouble with ground noise in that circuit. I'm running ground to it from the panel, but should I be grounding it somewhere else like on the pot where most other grounds are running from? I was able to make some good progress here by running a 10uF cap between + and - in that circuit, and a 0.1uF cap between the + and - rails on the 386, but is there anything more/different I should be doing here?
It doesn't sound terrible, and most of the ground noise seems to be gone, but it just doesn't have the clarity that the line out has. Am I foolish to expect more from a basic 386 amp, or are there any good tactics for increasing the quality? The amp circuit I used is below:
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Blue Hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 19621 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Just finished a WSG - pics and a question |
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| benjo wrote: | | but should I be grounding it somewhere else like on the pot where most other grounds are running from? |
Yeah, or on your power supply even, but the idea of a "star point" certainly applies here and any ground current running trough the front panel would mess things up in a way as you experienced.
You could just take a ground wire and experiment a bit to find a ground spot that gives least trouble .. its not so easy often to see where the currents actually flow.
And thats a damn nice looking box! I'd listen to any audio you'd post here
o . and of course  _________________ Jan |
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benjo
Joined: Apr 02, 2012 Posts: 2 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject:
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| Sounds good, I'll experiment with a couple grounding options, thanks! |
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JingleJoe

Joined: Nov 10, 2011 Posts: 789 Location: Lancashire, England
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:54 am Post subject:
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To remove noise:
Add a cap to ground on pin 7 of the LM386. About 1uF should do.
Also I use a 100uF cap accross the supply when using an LM386.
This amp will allways distort badly (or nicely if you like distortion ) at high gain, it's wise to add both a gain control and a volume control with a resistor at the top of your volume pot to limit the input voltage to a low voltage. Then adjust the gain and input volume carefully (they affect each other) untill you have the maximum volume you can get with no distortion. _________________ As a mad scientist I am ruled by the dictum of science: "I can't really be certain but I think I might have an idea"
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jordroid
Joined: Jan 17, 2010 Posts: 193 Location: ithaca, new york
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:23 am Post subject:
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Looks great!
Nice job,
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loydb
Joined: Feb 04, 2010 Posts: 364 Location: Providence, RI
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ashleym
Joined: Aug 20, 2009 Posts: 157 Location: uk
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:33 pm Post subject:
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Love the build. Great style to the box. For us Brits couldnt you have put on w@nker?
Another source of distortion could be the gain of the circuit you are using. (Getting the figures wrong but) the LM386 put out about 1/2 a watt, the WSG will put out, say, about 1V. Different units but think about it you wont need 1V with gain of 200 giving 200V output if the little amp could ever output that much.....Looking quickly at the datasheet you need to look at the components between pins 1 and 8, try no capacitor and an 1.35K resistor. This will give you a lot more useable scale on the volume control too.
Did I mention I loved the box? |
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-minus-
Joined: Oct 26, 2008 Posts: 729
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:37 am Post subject:
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Looks really great! Love the labels!!!
I think the grounding problem is with the LINE OUT socket. It should read ASSHOLE. |
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Paradigm X
Joined: Feb 15, 2011 Posts: 254 Location: Null and void
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:23 am Post subject:
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You need one of these
Great looking build tho  |
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