receptor

trash · Joined: Aug 27, 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Brighton YAY!

well guys i think ive found it
the perfect thing for my live gigs...
assuming anyone will let me play hehe
i cant afford a capybara but i think i could shift some bits around with this....

http://www.museresearch.com/receptor_overview.php

but blimey it runs on linux too!
some of the code is GPL'd but i believe something is hidden..

hmmmmm this has got me thinking.....

trash · Joined: Aug 27, 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Brighton YAY!

my picture is funny.

mosc · Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:24 pm Post subject:

Blue Hell · Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:14 am Post subject:

Kassen · Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:34 am Post subject:

...About as expensive as a laptop but without the schreen and keyboard.

Blah.

Oskar · Joined: Jul 29, 2004 Posts: 1102 Location: Norway

I think I see the point though, Having a great set of plugins in a box that's specially built for the rigours of live music must feel safer than running the same plugins from a laptop that's probably far better suited to the safety of a studio environment. Compared to yer standard or garden variety laptop that machine looks like it's built like a tank. If you decide to go ahead with the Receptor, keep me posted, as it might be of interest for me as well, even though I'm primarily a guitarist.

deknow · Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:11 am Post subject:

when looking for a platform for the electric flute, i considered receptor and plugzilla. in the end, they are expensive hardware platforms that (if one is to stay legal and support the companies who make the products they use) requre (sometimes) expensive plugin licenses (at least for my application).

i found the nord g2 engine filled that niche for me for less money (and a little more flexibility). i can see they might make sense if one already uses (and owns) a bunch of plugins.

deknow

trash · Joined: Aug 27, 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Brighton YAY!

yes the point along with why my picture is funny
two blindingly obvious points....

i didnt see plugzilla
ill check it out now..
yes it is expensive but receptor
has an 'unsupported plugins' folder
for plugins you already 0wn i mean own....

the point for me being
logic and a laptop which is what i mostly write on
is too fragile to take live
there is no chance i wanna take this schlatop live...
this seems like the other option...
now hmmm whats that other thing he was mentioning...
the problem with any laptop is
you need to take monitors and little bullshit leads
that you will forget at some point in a hotel or what not...
you guys know what the advantages are..
i was thinking mac minis but then i was thinking latency problems..

trash · Joined: Aug 27, 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Brighton YAY!

yeah what i need is a hardware version of mulch with no latency thats not 15,000 ir whatever...

Kassen · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:21 am Post subject:

Oskar · Joined: Jul 29, 2004 Posts: 1102 Location: Norway

Kassen · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:13 pm Post subject:

I´m not sure about that stat, I´ll take your word for it. The advantage of samplers is that they don´t rely on the disk to boot though so you could have a backup cd, depending on how hard your disk crashed. I´ve seen bad problems with akai´s but I do suspect they last a little longer then 2.6 sets.

Oskar · Joined: Jul 29, 2004 Posts: 1102 Location: Norway

Oops, sorry, forgot to mark my latest post: IRONY ALERT! Cool

trash · Joined: Aug 27, 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Brighton YAY!

ITS A oops its a different kind of humour on the net...
ok well a lukewarm reception from electro music for the receptor..
is there something where i can combine vst effects and tweak them indefinitely without it crashing and with minimal latency ?
i have to able to feed them into each other and wire them around ala mulch...
spanks for any help

jksuperstar · Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:35 am Post subject:

I like the concept of receptor, personally. Receptor actually runs Linux inside that box. It *has* to be solid Smile

In my mind, it has to be the most reliable way of transporting VSTs to a live situation.

Also, I'm sure receptor uses a standard Harddrive, but a laptop hardrive might be a better choice. Many Laptop drives today physically park the heads off the disk, reducing the chance of damage during transit to almost nill. In fact, some of them also have an accelerometer built in, so if the drive detects sudden acceleration (like your stand taking a dive), the drive will immediately park itself (which happens in far less time than it takes to hit the floor). (HP originally invented this technology back in the days of the Apple Newton!)

Since it is running linux & is network attached, you very well may be able to make "image" saves of the entire harddisk for a failsafe (ie- save the contents of the harddrive to a single file/directory, to be used for reconstructing the drive at a later date). I'd contact the Receptor people about this.

paul e. · Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:38 am Post subject:

trash · Joined: Aug 27, 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Brighton YAY!

i am much more on the tip of jk...
i dont like digital desks
i will never use one again after the o2r
they just suck
and anyway im not looking for mixing...
the linux thing is one thing i checked out immediately
and it made me think the dudes are serious...
plus it made me think its hackable and tweakable..
which is always nice...
thats exactly what me n me mate said jk...
my mate was like
hey 'if there is a god this will be open source'
anyway good luck dudes...

continue the mission/......

mosc · Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:31 am Post subject:

Trash: What don't you like about digital mixing desks? I've never used them, but I thought that when my analog Mackie dies I'd go for a digital one.

elektro80 · Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:42 am Post subject:

I know what I find problematic with many digital consoles, but I would love to know more about what Kris thinks is bad about that yamaha console.

trash · Joined: Aug 27, 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Brighton YAY!

several things
the lack of hands on ability with 02r specifically
but mostly i havent heard a good one yet..
i dunno ive given up with em
i would rather use analog
i would also go back to 2 inch 24trk given half a chance...
prolly two machines synced is the best...

Smile

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paul e. · Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:27 pm Post subject:

trash...those are well-known limitations of digital mixers..

but for live..they can be more ideal than an analog in certain ways

digital mixers can be more practical for live where hi-fi sonics and total tweaky control are not always necc.

in the studio, i would also prefer an excellent analog mixer and 2 inch tape..who wouldnt heheh

and 2 inch tape sounds nice, but you wouldn;'t want to drag that onto a stage..

hey maybe you should use the real analog synths onstage instead of the soft synths so you can have real knobs for each function heheheh
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btw.. that 1680 i referred to is not just a mixer, but a DAW as well, making it viable for live performance

elektro80 · Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:01 am Post subject:

I guess the reason you are using a digital mixer is because you have a lot of outboard stuff.
Try this one: http://www.speck.com/lilo/lilo.shtml

trash · Joined: Aug 27, 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Brighton YAY!

things like the 1680
really do make me want to tie my intestines to the top of st pauls cathedral and do a bungee...
i want to personally despatch the person who invented it
and then chop the heads off our monarchy....
i would rather master to cassette..

anyway im not using soft synths..
the receptors i was thinking about were for processing sound
rather than instruments but that would be handy too...

paul e. · Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:23 am Post subject:

did i say you should master to something like the 1680..i was talking about live shows..and its 24bit audio,, so unless you are an analog purist...

anyway

that bungee jump sounds painful...however, from what i gather, you may enjoy it hehehe

elektro80 · Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:05 am Post subject:

The Yamaha digital consoles as well as the various digital mixers/recorders in this price range are really budget products. Something like the 02 is not possible to build and sell at an affordable price had it been analog.
These devices are however extremely useful for live performances.
The sound quality isn´t really that bad unless you know how the really good gear sounds. I wouldn´t recommend using the built-in effects section for recordings.
I won´t say all of these devices gear are crappy. That is not the case. It is unfair to compare the 02 with a Harrison or Neve console.

Did you check out this link? : http://www.speck.com/lilo/lilo.shtml
This one is truly great and it is built for use with DAWs.

Digital mixers are however excellent for monitoring. Behringer ( Shocked

) has an excellent digital mixer well suited for complex monitoring setups in a small or medium sized studio.