Does your Nord lead crashes all the time?

Olsen

My cute beautiful NL3 Not only does not play in stereo through the 1&2 stereo outputs, only one works fine and the stereo signal is only transmited by the jackphone headphone output, it does not transmit midi messeges for the knobs and the famous arpeggiator, no sir, not only that but also it crashes all the time. It crashes mostly when i'm using programs that are built with lots of release and or sort of distortion made up out of huge amount of FM or resonance. Then you change programs and the crash is still there, most of the time forever, then i have to shoot it down and restart it, this really sucks in studio work or recording sessions, imagine if i'm gigging with it...
The panic bottom works only if is activated before hand, let's say before you start playing of if the botton is active as part of the program, otherwise does not do anything. I can live without knobs midi messages or without arp midi message but if besides that it does not output the sound by the two main or sub outputs in stereo(or even in mono) and it crashes all the time this is a good reason to get rid of it.
Oh! yea, the manual thinks that the panic botton is a helpfull feature always able to take you out of trouble but is not really like that.
I read complains like this ones in Harmony Central but i bought the NL3 anyway and i love it but this things brother give me the mixnuts...
Dou you by any chance have the same issues?i mean about crashing so often?

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:11 pm Post subject:

Have you considered having a repair shop check it out? Shocked

This one is still under warranty, right?

Olsen · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject:

warranty is expired; but i will start contacting the company and see what we can do before surgery. (or selling to buy other)

Wout Blommers · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:21 am Post subject:

Of course you have checked all the cables, specially the power supply?
Clavia won't do anything to help you, because they are out of NL3 supply. Bring it to a repair shop, but don't buy another one, because the platform is abandoned. Go for a Nord Modular G2 or the coming Nord Wave.

Wout

Olsen · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:26 am Post subject:

Cables are all fine, the power cable is a regular 110 that goes from NL3 to the outlet, if it fails the NL goes down, this is ok, audio cables are fine, they are Monster cables, goes from NL3 stereo main L&R to the mixer/recorder which is also fine. I tried the NL3 with two amps and one does not sound,the R to be precise, The crashing is annoying,it happen in every session.
Are you suggesting to buy a G2 modular over the G2 keyboard?
Why?

Wout Blommers · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:18 am Post subject:

Wout Blommers · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:21 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:48 am Post subject:

Olsen is in NY, and NY does probably not mean North Yemen. Cool

Olsen · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:20 am Post subject:

Very funny!
I bought it in ebay from a a guy in california. But the US has the same voltage all over the territory including Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto rico and al the american Virgin Islands; all that states in theUS use 110w; South America has 220 like you guys in Europe. Brazil is cool, i spend 23 years in Brazil they have 220v.There's very good music down there; in fact that was my school of music. Listen Egberto Gismonti, Hermetto Pascoal, or Arrigo Barnabe, there's some ECM recordings of Gismonti with Towner or solo, with Garbarek, etc excellent stuff with own rules, beautiful.
I wander if American Embassys in the European countries has 110 too; Americans are very jelous about protecting their personality and probably want to have also american electricity in foreing countries in american embassys to feel thenselves more at home.(ha ha!)
I really don't know the arabic countries like Yemen what kind of voltage they use...do you?

elektro80 · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:52 am Post subject:

yes and no. Laughing

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Seems like the CIA has a strong foothold in certain arab countries.

Trivia: We are looking at the 220 being shifted to 230 in most european countries.

Olsen · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:36 am Post subject:

Thanks for posting the map Elektro.
Is amazing, most part of the world is managing 220/240, of course North Amerika and its fans countries as big economist that they are they use less voltage so they have less quality functional performance in electro domestics and the like, no wonder why european recordings sound better... (this is generic). But americans also spend less money in electric power so this way they can save an extra cash for military shopping... a little bit.

I remember when i was younger i use to rather buy British and Dutch, even Italian vinyls than american ones, because of the sound quality;
except for for the american musicians(Corea, Davies, Coltrane, Synergy, Blondie,etc) to listen the original NY sound.
Listening european or jap recordings of american music sounds pretty good but somehow fake; if you are an audiofiliac maniac obsess as i'm and i'm sure you guys if you are here must be as well; then you know what i'm talking about.
I still have the italian originals from "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorsso" some sort of italian Emerson Lake And Palmer, Yes and Nino Rota.
Check'em out. They are so good.

This morning i made some changes in my rig; i changed connections, this is the new route: NL3, Elektrix Filter Factory( to make the NL3 still Fater and kill undesirable frequencies), Boss RC-50 Loop Station, Korg D1600 in two individual tracks- Sansui stereo Amp, monitors.
The NL3 of course still crashes once in a while but as i'm using loops i can manage to reboot The NL3 in the middle of a session and not spoil the recording, so i can do this live if necessary, but this is just temporary, i'm going for the NL2G a soon as i sell mine.

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:11 am Post subject:

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:20 am Post subject:

munkthalund · Joined: Apr 07, 2011 Posts: 8 Location: Denmark

I have two NL3s acting out this way,
a few weeks ago a boffin friend helped me track the cause

I've posted a fix here. Worked like a charm on both my synths.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/6515383-post19.html

Olsen · Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:59 am Post subject:

Thank you for posting this solution.
Yea, it is very risky to open the NL, specially if you are not a technician..
I opened it for the first time the other day to clean it and clean a contact because the first black key on the left does not produce any sound, but i culdn't go any deeper in taking the key off to clean the contact, so i can't even imagine myself installing a capacitor.. i might eventually sell my NL3 and get another one that works fine..
I should be ashamed of my laziness, uh..? well, yes I am.

munkthalund · Joined: Apr 07, 2011 Posts: 8 Location: Denmark

Olsen · Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:16 am Post subject:

I guess i will try to do it, if i succeed i will feel 100% better about myself (lol)
I had the crashing problem x years, since i bought the NL3, i would say 5 years ago.. I could survive with the bug, even if it crashed so many times during live shows, i had to re-shoot it in the middle of a show two or three times once or twice.. anyway, i learned to live with the problem but what is really making me crazy now is the silent key, do you know how to remove the keys to clean the contact?

thanks

munkthalund · Joined: Apr 07, 2011 Posts: 8 Location: Denmark