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Yamaha CS-40M needs fix.
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KarmanHardon



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Yamaha CS-40M needs fix.
Subject description: Schematics needed...
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So I got this beauty here for not too much, because it's not functional... for now.

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It blows one of the two internal 2.5 amp fuse, systematically, seconds after powering on. They're right beside the PSU.
I suspect (hope is a better word) it's simply the power supply that's going to hell. (btw: if anyone can confirm that, it will help me sleep till I find the cash to get it fixed!... if I can't fix it myself.).

So now I need the service manual containing schematics (not the Owner's Manual)... I spent quite a few hours combing through the net. No luck... well I found one place where they sell pdf's of it for 20$ US... I'm pretty certain it's available for free somewhere.

Anyone knows the secret hidden place where I can find that?

Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha CS-40M needs fix.
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KarmanHardon wrote:
if anyone can confirm that,


Yep. pretty much. You could also in the meantime look for shortcuts (small bits of wire etc- but I doubt it. I had a similar problem last year with an amp. Turned out to be an dead capacitor in the PSU)

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Excellent!! Thanks. This cheers me up big time. (You must understand I blew all the money I had gathered to party this w-e... biggest party w-e of the year here... I feel very lonely)

I think I did the right thing buying it.

I can't stop staring at it... it's so beautiful. Even more so now that I'm pretty sure it's only a power issue!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

To be sure, disconnect the power supply from the rest of the circuits, and see if it still blows the fuses.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hm... I'd rather leave this to a pro, give him money and get my synth back working.

That synth was sent to me by *insert synth god here*. I happen to loooove the Yamaha sound (the CS 80 being my dream synth)...I've been extremely lucky so far and I don't want to push my luck.


-edit- Wow Dave (checking out your site)... I you were my neighbor, it's definitely you I'd take my synth to!!! Do you think it's possible to modify it so that the Vco's can sync? It's one of the reasons why I want to get the schematics...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It shouldn't be to hard to build a circuit to sync the VCOs, if you get a hold of the schematics, send me a copy of the VCO schematic, and we'll look into it.
I used to have a few of the CS series synths, a CS15, CS40m and a CS60, the CS60 is the only one I wish I had never sold, the ring modulator on it was the best one I have ever used, and it had the best ribbon controller in the business, if you ever get a chance to buy one, BUY IT!, it gives you the same sound and features as the CS80, but without the overheating problems.

edit: if you need someone to look at it, try the guys at Technopolis, in Montreal

http://www.generation.net/~musicr/

If they can't do it, they should be able to recommend someone who can.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah... I know the guy at Technopolis... Thing is he's there only two days per week or so. Very hard to get ahold of him or get something repaired within reasonable times.... and uh... damn he's pricey this guy!! He owns a Porsche, you know. Also I never saw this guy smile... even when I went in and spent 2000$. What am I saying here?!?... I'm a bit afraid of him. Very odd gut feeling. I think he's evil. Never mind. lol (ya readin' this Mart? Smiling is free!!)

I've spent more time trying to find schematics. Either I'm bad at finding stuff or it's really not there at all. Turns out I couldn't find any either for free or for sale (that other pdf selling site doesn't even have it). It does not appear like it's common practice to mod that synth.

Not a very popular synth, really. The owners seem to really love it though.

Will keep looking... there has to be a place but I don't know where to look now.


Oh and rest assured I will buy a CS-60 if I see one... I could do naaaasty things for one.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The only other person I can suggest is Mark Glinsky

http://www.markglinsky.com/ManualManor.html

he lists the user and service manuals, I would assume the service manuals would have the schematics.
I have delt with Mark on numerous occasions, he only charges you what it costs him to photocopy the manuals, and postage.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wink

Got 'em!!

I have fought dragons, wolves, a trillion tiny ants and witches (welll one of them was niice), swam across all seven oceans. But I got them.

I"m sorry I can't share it publicly. The guy who got handed them to me wishes it that way.

@Dave: Check you pm box!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It seems that all the CS series synths use the same VCO chip, you might want to check if any of the other CS synths have a VCO sync that you could adapt, or if someone else has done a sync mod on any of the other CS synths.
When I get some time, I'll check some of the sites I have bookmarked, and see if I can come up with something, and also see if I can find a data sheet for the IG00153 VCO chip.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You're the best!! Thanks Dave!

Take your time. I'm first going to get the power issue out of the way... hopefully it's all that's wrong...

I should unpack for now (typing this from my new flat!! Yay!! It's a mess!!). I'm a bit sore... my records weigh at least three times as much as the rest of my stuff.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Karman,
I have the same problem with my Yamaha CS30. Did you finally manage to solve the issue? I sent you a pm.
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