If I'd make a string chorus PCB, what kind of multi-BBD circuit would you prefer? |
Solina style (also: Crumar Performer, Böhm Phasing Rotor, and others) |
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62% |
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ARP Omni style |
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13% |
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Elka Synthex 4 BBD circuit |
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11% |
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other (please name in thread) |
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6% |
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I would want neither - it's old fashioned and overused, and if I need it, there are digital FX boxes |
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jhaible
Joined: May 25, 2007 Posts: 2014 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:43 am Post subject:
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That's good to hear. I really think it's not such a rare chip at all. It was popular in Germany among DIYers, but hasn't been used in that many commercial devices. (Yes, it's in the TAM-19.)
I suspect there must be thousands of these scattered over shops around the world.
The good availability was why I chose that chip in the first place. I just got worried as my #1 source, Reichelt, has dried up on these.
JH. _________________ "I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours." (Mk 11,23f) |
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bugbrand
Joined: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 846 Location: Bristol, UK
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keithwin
Joined: Jul 20, 2007 Posts: 83 Location: uk
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:35 am Post subject:
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They appear to do japanese transistors too,
I have placed an order today:
DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE COST
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TDA1022 6 £3.30 £19.80
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Subtotal: £19.80
Shipping: £1.00
VAT: £3.65
Total: £24.45
How about that shipping cost?
I'll see what arrives
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Luka
Joined: Jun 29, 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: Melb.
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jhaible
Joined: May 25, 2007 Posts: 2014 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:16 am Post subject:
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Luka wrote: | could i reserve 1 board jurgen
thanks |
Thanks for showing interest - to you and to all the others who did.
I think this PCB will definitely be made, and I'll post an email order form in a few days, just as I did with the Tau.
You all just make sure to get these BBD chips
JH. _________________ "I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours." (Mk 11,23f) |
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mono-poly
Joined: Jul 07, 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject:
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4 boards please |
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jhaible
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject:
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mono-poly wrote: | 4 boards please |
I'll give a discount starting with 5.
JH. _________________ "I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours." (Mk 11,23f) |
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mono-poly
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject:
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hmmmm |
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jhaible
Joined: May 25, 2007 Posts: 2014 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject:
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Let's see if you like it!
http://www.jhaible.heim.at/triple_chorus/jh_string_ensemble_demo_just_strings_r8b.mp3
More here:
http://www.jhaible.heim.at/triple_chorus/triple_chorus.html
JH. _________________ "I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours." (Mk 11,23f) |
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Serenadi
Joined: Jul 03, 2007 Posts: 89 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject:
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You're very close to the original, congrats !!!
Since I only knew conventional pad sounds, this one is great surprise.
I like it very much.
Enhancing bell sound |
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jhaible
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject:
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Serenadi wrote: |
You're very close to the original, congrats !!!
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Thanks!
I'm still unsure if the first sample (with just strings) is too lush for a true Solina emulation. But the last sample (adjusting the waveform) shows what span of sounds is possible, and I think there's a spot where it sounds like solina.
http://www.jhaible.heim.at/triple_chorus/jh_string_ensemble_demo_waveform_adjust_r8b.mp3
(To my ears it sounds just right at about 8 ... 10 seconds into this sample.)
BTW, that waveform adjustment was intended to be just a 100k trimpot. But I'll probably bring it out as a normal 100k lin pot to the frontpanel, to allow more variation than to just have "the" solina sound.
JH. _________________ "I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours." (Mk 11,23f) |
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softfin
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:35 am Post subject:
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Man, that thing sounds nice! I have to think hard how many boards I will eventually buy...two is the minimum as I got chips to populate only two at the moment.
I've almost reached the roof of this months diy budget, so if there's no hurry with payment, I will take 5 boards!
Once again, thanks Jurgen! |
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LWG
Joined: Sep 23, 2007 Posts: 5 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:46 am Post subject:
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Jurgen,
Hope you are feeling better from the hospital stay, (apparently you are, if you’re back at this so soon).
If I may offer a suggestion; when attempting to tune the chorus phaser to the Solina’s calibrated (or sweet spot) setting, you may want to consider the raw signal you’re feeding into the unit. Even if you have the most accurate chorus settings for authentic Solina, it may be harder to tell by ear, as the OB-8 (like most classic poly synths, ala P5, MM, etc.) have a more wideband osc signal than the typical raw string synth wave. The Solina/SE/Omni series have a pre-chorus string voice thats more
band-limited than those classic poly synths.
The string voices (on most of those old machines) have a distinct high-pass (and some lowpass) cut on them that is a major factor them their initial character.
I believe, if you tune the chorus using a synth such as the Yamaha CS, the additional highpass filtering would make it easier to model the Solina’s initial string voice character.
Once you’ve locked in on the settings you want to use for the classic Solina sound, you could use the OB and larger bandwidth synths to check for optimal headroom.
Just my .02. Sounds good so far.
Regards,
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mono-poly
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:01 am Post subject:
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great examples.
gonna get me some coffee and listen them again! |
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Broadwave
Joined: Feb 16, 2007 Posts: 347 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:10 am Post subject:
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Just ordered my TDA's, so I'm definately up for a board
Thanks,
Andy. |
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chriswilliams
Joined: May 17, 2005 Posts: 17 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:49 am Post subject:
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Likewise, I'm ordering the parts now - please put me on the list for a board |
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clickmrmike
Joined: Jun 08, 2007 Posts: 48 Location: Gnashville
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:10 am Post subject:
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Anyone know a US-based source for these chips?
Thanks!
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chriswilliams
Joined: May 17, 2005 Posts: 17 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:07 am Post subject:
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Unless I'm mistaken, I think Small Bear Electronics is US based - that's where I'm getting mine from
http://www.smallbearelec.com |
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b-funk
Joined: Jul 17, 2007 Posts: 193 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:57 am Post subject:
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i´m in, too...
(toomanyprojectstoomanyprojectstoomanyprojectstoomany...)
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guitarfool
Joined: Feb 26, 2007 Posts: 160 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:56 am Post subject:
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Put me down for 2, too. |
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clickmrmike
Joined: Jun 08, 2007 Posts: 48 Location: Gnashville
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject:
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Yep, I'm in for one, too.
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bambam
Joined: Feb 20, 2007 Posts: 60 Location: australia
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject:
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Put me down for one PCB, i might be able to stretch that to two
Ordering my TDA1022's now. |
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bambam
Joined: Feb 20, 2007 Posts: 60 Location: australia
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject:
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Anyone in australia thinking of this project? I may be able to help with a small combined order of TDA1022's
Probably around $12au each which is a little bit more than suppliers OS but postage etc would be a decent save on the final cost as they are in australia.
If anyone is interested let me know by tomorrow as i'll be ordering then.
Cheers
Brett |
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Luka
Joined: Jun 29, 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: Melb.
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject:
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i'm in melbourne,
i think ill order some when i order all my vactrols
12 seems pretty expensive brett
where are you ordering from?
they are only US$6.50 at smallbear, and we have a great AUS-US conversion rate at the moment _________________ problemchild
melbourne australia
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bambam
Joined: Feb 20, 2007 Posts: 60 Location: australia
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject:
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yeah i just checked out smallbear. and they actually do very reasonable postage so i ordered there |
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