That plucking sound

Pehr

How do 'they' really get those really nice plucking sounds in those sequences.

Are the key to use filters in a specific way?

Or is it 'just' a non-excistent attack followed by a slight decay (amplitude envelope)?

Waveforms?

Listen to this one for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjwuNWDBAGQ Shocked

I know he uses an awesome delay of some sort, but it is the sequence notes I'm qurious about...

EDIT: I'm not trying to copy anything. Just learning to patch. Rolling Eyes

v-un-v · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject:

Pehr, the VCS3 Mk1 is famed for a sort of bubbling effect you could get from the filter (especially when it was being used as an oscillator), because there was a slight lag going on between the filter and its modulation source. I think the culprit was a decoupling capacitor or something- but you could try injecting a very quick lag to the filter.

That Moog filter also had a kind of 'rasping' sound when it was wide open (I know this because a mate of mine here in Birmingham has a IIIc and it has that 'sound').

hope that helps Smile

v-un-v · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject:

oh and, fwiw, if you like echo (which I do too), Roland have done a virtual space echo pedal- which sounds (and looks) the business, although I myself have also been looking at the Toadworks Redux- which has some really innovative features- including a sort of random multitap delay setting. very cool indeed!

ian-s

Pehr · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the answers! Very Happy

I can hear the filter envelope when you mention it.

I guess my new synthacon vcfs is great for this purpose. Cool

I just need more EGs Rolling Eyes

Pehr · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:36 am Post subject:

v-un-v · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:26 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:32 am Post subject:

The new digital Space Echo clone is sickenly good. Approved!
And.. the Universal Audio software clone for the UAD-1 DSP card is way hot as well.

v-un-v · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:00 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:26 am Post subject:

I have owned a few tape echo devices myself. I see no rational reason for buying any of these secondhand. The digital clones will do just fine.

Pehr · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject:

It would be really cool to have the original RE-201 Rolling Eyes

Real tape echo, analog stuff etc... It looks really cool to. Cool

I really like analog. Smile

However, it is too hard to find in good condition and is way too expensive. Crying or Very sad

If I'd stumble upon one for a reasonable price I would really buy it, but I'm not going to hunt one down on e*ay for $$$ or something...

So I really considering digital pedals. But right now my budget is too tight for the RE-20 or the DD-20 (i.e. too expensive right now).

Perhaps I'll buy a behringer DD400 for ~$30 to start with... Embarassed

EDIT: I got the plucking sound when patching earlier today Very Happy

Using the Klee Cool

Pehr · Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:41 am Post subject:

A little delay testing with the Klee. Prob too much of it... Embarassed

Funky40 · Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:55 am Post subject:

i don't understand the term "plucked" really. on the G2 engine i have other sounds named like this.

maybe there were Zero VCOs patched.
those can give a very bellly and smooth lower end.
the sound reminds me to what i heard from the Zero.

it is useful to have a sequenz patched to the filter and to experiment with closing it almost.
it's about to alternat those lower an higer notes in adjustment with the sequnez for the frequenzy
patching a slew to the sequenz might be a good try to give pluckend sounds too.
Oakley has a nice pcb

@Pehr
why i post:
give the low pass gate a try, you will definitly REALLY like it,
and it's an easy build.(only the Vactrols are expensive, you can take the dual Vactrols)
look at fonics site:

http://modular.fonik.de/pdf/low%20pass%20gate.pdf

Pehr · Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject:

Pehr · Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:27 am Post subject:

a.b.o.z. · Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:15 am Post subject:

I was using DD-5 for some time. It is very good digital delay only. Best buy if you want digital.
What about Line6 stomps? DL4 is a monster and there is echo park also.

Pehr · Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:07 am Post subject:

I have looked at some other digital delays, but can they handle line level signals? Confused

a.b.o.z. · Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:55 am Post subject:

don't know about DL4 but I watched Pamelia Kurstin once..and she played her theremin thru two of DL4... Is moog's theremin give line level output?

Pehr · Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:05 am Post subject: