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The different sound of samplers
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: The different sound of samplers Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It´s said that different samplers sounds different, for instace Akai compared to E-mu. But does it mean even with unfiltered samples? (if it´s the same sound, sampled with same bit and same frequency) how come?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Different components, different DAC's different everything pretty much. Also because different manufacturers were different, they didn't all share the same output boards etc.

You have to get away from the sampler being a PC- because its not. But it has been a long time since someone made a hardware sampler (well maybe there are exceptions- such as all those grooveboxes etc). Unfortunately most PC's share the same way of out-putting sound. Like for eg a similar soundcard or whatever. This makes it very difficult to change the sound unless you either do it in software (still very little change) or you do it by spending hundreds on an I/O that no one else can afford- or only few can afford.

I still think dedicated hardware sounds better than PC hardware (and by PC, that includes Mac's too). My old E-mu E4 had so much weight. The old Akai S950 too also had a 'sound' that was unavailable on our Macintosh computers.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Don't forget that a lot of dedicated hardware samplers have output stages with equalisation and shelf filters, etc.

My S-6000 has both. Samples played on it sound different than samples played directly from my Mac, even though that has arguably better (newer) electronics.

many people assumed that samplers in the day were accurate. They were hardly accurate! they were instruments. As much as a Mellotron was.

And here now I have samples of a Mellotron on my S-6K. Not quite full circle. Tape had flavour too.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

EdisonRex wrote:


many people assumed that samplers in the day were accurate. They were hardly accurate! they were instruments. As much as a Mellotron was.


Totally!

I've got an old Casio SK-5 here. I've heard someone refer to it as "the dog piano" because it has a dog preset on it!! Laughing It also has 4x 1-second non-volatile memories, is 8-bit, sounds rough as f**k- a true battery operated Lo-fi mellotron Very Happy

I want an Optigan Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

henrik you really need some basic digital education Laughing
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