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rodhart
Joined: Jan 22, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: Brighton UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:47 am Post subject:
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Hi!
I've just bought a NL 1 and installed the 12 voice expansion card.
I can't change the performance programs using the shift button, it stays on
A1 permanently.
Not sure what version the synth is ... 1, I think as it has slightly different markings from than described in the manual - no panic or demo buttons labeled etc.
Anyone got any ideas on this problem?
Any help much appreciated!
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Wout Blommers
Joined: Sep 07, 2003 Posts: 4529 Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject:
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It works when the expansion isn't installed?
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rodhart
Joined: Jan 22, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: Brighton UK
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:03 am Post subject:
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No, it doesn't work when the expansion board isn't installed.
It's version 1.3 by the way.
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Wout Blommers
Joined: Sep 07, 2003 Posts: 4529 Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:05 am Post subject:
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Mine is V 2.3
Anyway, it shouldn't matter.
To change the memory location in Performance mode one uses the two Up and Down arrows next to the screen, the same way as in Program mode. If this works in that mode, the buttons aren't broken...
The Shift is used to change functions of the Wheel, or together with the here mentioned Up and Down arrows to make steps of ten memory locations, or to enter the synth global modes, like changing Midi Channels, etc.
[correction] You have to use the [Shift+Performance] to switch between Program mode and Performance mode![/correction] To choose a different memory location use Up and Down...
A suggestion I would make, if nothing is happening yet, is trying to make a Performance change by using a sequencer, hardware or software, by sending the ProgramChange command using the GLOBAL MIDI channel! (sometimes known as ANY).
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rodhart
Joined: Jan 22, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: Brighton UK
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for the reply.
I'm not sure if it's related, but a new development occurred today - The panel lights started to flicker when I played the keys, becoming dimmer as more notes were played. Then the whole thing stopped working and failed to power up again.
With the board removed, the keyboard worked again but the lights still flicker.
I've left it with a service engineer and will have more to report soon I hope.
Will report back! |
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blue hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 24079 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject:
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rodhart wrote: | I've left it with a service engineer |
but good idea ... please let us know how you fare. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Wout Blommers
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject:
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Besides to know what is wrong with the synth, I also want to know if the service engineer is capable to repair it. It is a synth as old as at least 15 years...
Wout
who keeps his fingers crossed, which makes typing rather difficult... |
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rodhart
Joined: Jan 22, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: Brighton UK
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject:
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He's working on some much older gear at the moment but it all comes down to availability of spares.
Strange that it all worked fine for a few days ( except the performance change problem ) then stopped.
Perhaps keep those on your left hand crossed and type with your right? ...unless of course you're left-handed, in which case the reverse may work for you. Don't you find some great advice on forums? !!! |
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Wout Blommers
Joined: Sep 07, 2003 Posts: 4529 Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:37 am Post subject:
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rodhart wrote: | ... Perhaps keep those on your left hand crossed and type with your right? ...unless of course you're left-handed, in which case the reverse may work for you. Don't you find some great advice on forums? !!! | Yes, you're English for sure
BTW both hands, so I type with my nose...
(That was a rather old joke some years ago on the NordModular list. Some were slamming their faces on the board...)
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rodhart
Joined: Jan 22, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: Brighton UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:42 am Post subject:
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Thankfully it's your nose... |
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rodhart
Joined: Jan 22, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: Brighton UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:28 am Post subject:
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The engineer thinks it may be a sub-power supply failure based on the symptoms.
More news when I hear back. |
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rodhart
Joined: Jan 22, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: Brighton UK
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:02 am Post subject:
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Ok, I'm told the panel lights dimming is not unusual...apparently it doesn't do it in mono mode - something to do with 'addressing' the keyboard.
Anyone else noticed this? The sound is unaffected. |
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blue hell
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:06 am Post subject:
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Yes, some flickering is not unusual, but how about the
Quote: | Then the whole thing stopped working and failed to power up again. |
bit? That's no longer happening? _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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rodhart
Joined: Jan 22, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: Brighton UK
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:46 am Post subject:
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Yes, that's when the expansion board is connected. The engineer hasn't got back to me on that yet.
Will post as soon as I know. |
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blue hell
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject:
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Ah I see, now the earlier power supply remark makes sense as well _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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juankiyo
Joined: Feb 25, 2008 Posts: 9 Location: Sevilla
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:44 am Post subject:
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Hi,
I have exactly the same problem that you. So i haven't installed 12 voices expansion.
It's version 1.3.
I want to use Drawbar organs and other sounds. Have it must expansion board installed??
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rodhart
Joined: Jan 22, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: Brighton UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:24 pm Post subject:
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I think you'll need the expansion board for the organ sounds. 4 voices run out quickly especially if you're playing live. For recording it's possible to use it unexpanded with it's limited polyphony.
Frustrating to have the board and not be able to use it. Did yours ever work at all?
My service engineer got back to me today and said that is was probably a fault with the board in my case. He spoke to Hand in Hand ( UK Clavia distributor ) who said that it is likely that the board is at fault. They added that there is no reason to sell one otherwise...I bought it from eBay in Germany a few weeks ago...the seller must have known...GBP 130.00..
no returns..
It gets worse..it's possible that the board has affected the NL1, causing the light flickering problem. Doesn't explain the performance shift program change problem though.
My only hope is to speak to Clavia and see if they are willing to take the board and the main NL1 board for repair. This is a better bet than sending the whole keyboard back through the distributors who estimate the cost to be upwards of 300.00 GBP.
I tried the main number for them a few times but no reply...
Time to invest in a NL2x ? |
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Wout Blommers
Joined: Sep 07, 2003 Posts: 4529 Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
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rodhart
Joined: Jan 22, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: Brighton UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:27 am Post subject:
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I hadn't seen that thread. Very hopeful! I'd already asked Hand in Hand ( UK distributor ) before buying the board on eBay..they didn't think I had a chance of finding one at Clavia.
I spoke to Clavia today and they think it may be a power supply board problem. They'll repair it if I send it through the distributor.
Will report back, many thanks for your help. |
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juankiyo
Joined: Feb 25, 2008 Posts: 9 Location: Sevilla
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:32 am Post subject:
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Hello,
I have recieved an email from Clavia about Performance mode.
"Enter performance mode by
pressing Shift + Manual/Perf Mode, then you should be able to select
the Performance memories with the up/down buttons. If this is not
working, maybe your NL is broken?"
It's more or less the same that other post.
One thing i can't understand. Is only performance mode enabled when you install expansion board + PCMCIA? |
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rodhart
Joined: Jan 22, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: Brighton UK
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:41 am Post subject:
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Hello!
I think you should be able to use performance mode without the expansion board and card.
Could you check and let me know?
Many thanks. |
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juankiyo
Joined: Feb 25, 2008 Posts: 9 Location: Sevilla
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:03 am Post subject:
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Of course.
I have tried it many times and i can't get more than A0 performance. I have never seen A1, or B1, G1...
I'm worried because i would like to buy an expansion and PCMCI and now i don't know. |
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Wout Blommers
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:14 am Post subject:
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You can enter Performance mode, but the cursor left next the LCD doesn't work? Then I should open up the red hood (unscrew the screws at the back and at the sides without the washer and one at the button, that is if you're talking about a key version; to a Rack unscrew all screws) First check all the connecting cables (keyboard, panel and motherboard) by losing them and tighten again. If all is right, take it to the repair shop...
Anyway, to this forum, juankiyo
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juankiyo
Joined: Feb 25, 2008 Posts: 9 Location: Sevilla
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:00 am Post subject:
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Many thanks.
I will try it |
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juankiyo
Joined: Feb 25, 2008 Posts: 9 Location: Sevilla
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:57 pm Post subject:
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Well...I think that i have a problem...
My Nord lead 1 version is 1.3.
I haven't installed expansion to 12 voices.
I have opened my nord lead and checked all the connecting cables. All is OK.
When i press up/down to select sounds it's working perfectly. When i change to performance mode, the button up/down doesn't work.
Is the same problem that rodhart or is different because i haven't installed expansion?
I'm very very worried beacuse i have bought keyboard by EBAY 1 month ago. |
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