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svivens
Joined: Jan 08, 2008 Posts: 26 Location: france
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject:
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Some news from Sensomusic:
Usine 3.55 comes out with a new design and CPU optimisation, a plugg-in collection including a new set of Spectral and FFT audio tools,
swing, even on data flow! a video player, different tempo for each track, etc...
http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=705
-->the VST version of Usine is on progress.
we will soon be able to open it inside our usual VST DAW!
what do you think of a modular inside AB.live..?
Usine VST in MiniHost:
http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=743 |
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Rosa Monte
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject:
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thank's for the link, but what is the interest for having different tempo for tracks? usuals software got syncro for all.
what is swing on data flow?
i love the pastel colors.
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mosc
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject:
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Different tempo for tracks is a fabulous feature if you like polyrhythmic music.
I've been fooling around a bit with Usine lately and it is much more powerful than I at first believed. It can be used to develop gizmos that do DSP. It's easy to attach widgets for controls etc. In this way it may be an alternative for commercial programs like AudioMulch and such. At any rate, it seem worth it to me to spend more time with Usine.
Being able to use it as a VST seems very nice, even though Usine is a VST host in its own right. _________________ --Howard
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mosc
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject:
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Ah, svivens is probably Stéfanus Vivens, one of the members of the development team. Sometimes, it takes me a while to figure things out.
Great work!
I wonder, is it possible to extend the mono delay module to provide delays that are on the order of 1 or 2 samples? I'm working on an ambiophonic encoder algorithm that requires delays that are on the order of 40 to 100 micro seconds. _________________ --Howard
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svivens
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject:
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HI Mosc, i'm not a one of the development team,i don't know how to write in C++ and scripting yet; (it will come,for now i rather play piano in Usine!) Olivier Sens works alone! so i use to give a litle help, for the new FXs, i did some presets,add-ons, i test and bring suggestions.Bsork does a great job helping on forum and with some crazy add-ons and scripts.
i try to push the DJ/trad-electro move in the Usine spirit!
i was blocked in Max/Msp cause of the price!..
and, compared to Max/Msp, it is nearly a pleasure to patch now!
i realize some dreams like improvising a set on stage, recording/looping all in real time,and...play piano with crazy fxs on it!
Yes i'm fan. ***
Quote: | Mosc said: I wonder, is it possible to extend the mono delay module to provide delays that are on the order of 1 or 2 samples? I'm working on an ambiophonic encoder algorithm that requires delays that are on the order of 40 to 100 micro seconds. |
_regarding delays in Usine,the mono delay min. is 0,050ms so it makes 2 samples i think,
anyway, Senso is open minded and you can suggests your needs directly to him on the sensomusic forums
cheers!
ps: i have a scoop: Senso is testing his VST in AB.Live, today! |
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svivens
Joined: Jan 08, 2008 Posts: 26 Location: france
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject:
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Rosa Monte wrote: | thank's for the link, but what is the interest for having different tempo for tracks? usuals software got syncro for all.
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as Mosc say a great job on polyrythmy can be done this way,
i only test it in sequencer (up to 512 steps) because it'easy to have 7/4 for 4/4 for 11/8 for what you want! (the inverse work! tempo equivalences by polyrithm)
the first interest that comes to my mind of having different tempo for each track is for ex.:
build a tune with some patches (audio,midi,VST,whatever...) on 3 tracks
tempo is 100
at the end of your playing, just mix another 3tracks tune
tempo is 75... at the end, back to the first 3 tracks, with another 3patches tune while tempo would be 125; and so on...
it 's not only like mixing wav tunes or vinyls...
all is potentialy living inside, remember that you can switch between
different piano rolls or step sequencers in only one patch.
while the next patch on the same track would be totaly different, a kind of loop player? yeah, here again you can switch of file in real time! |
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mosc
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject:
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svivens wrote: |
_regarding delays in Usine,the mono delay min. is 0,050ms so it makes 2 samples i think,
anyway, Senso is open minded and you can suggests your needs directly to him on the sensomusic forums |
According to the online docs, the min value is 0.1 ms. I will check in on their forum as you suggest. Thanks... _________________ --Howard
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svivens
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject:
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i confirm, it looks like a mistake in the help manual.
i should post Senso about.
you seem to be advanced in softwares
then if you drop a basic delay in some Usine empty patch,you'll be able to set the delay to 0.050 immediatly.
Usine audio delay has a [0,xxx] accuracy i guess...
as far as i can't enter in the module itself,exept coding!
but to this point, does it make Sens? i mean,Sense? |
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mosc
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject:
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I'm cool with that. I joined the Usine support forum and posted a message there about the delays and Olivier posted a reply that he's going to extend the delay down to one sample. That would be very nice.
I was playing with Usine and getting into a lot of fun spaces I've never been. I'm not a VST user. I work mostly on my G2 modular synth, but I'm going to be using Usine a lot in the future I'm sure. It's a different way of working for me - almost like a new instrument entirely. I suspect others will take to it immediately.
I'll probably end up having to get a powerful computer now... _________________ --Howard
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