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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: a6 and cubase Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hi all

sorry if this is more of a cubase question,,,i have my a6 midi u and the sound is going into my firepod, i am trying to work out how i can hear the a6 in stereo as my card hears 2 mono channels, i understand how to do this when i record, but how about when i am just playing midi?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm not sure I fully understand your question. Can you elaborate?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't either; you should be able to route stereo pairs pretty easily. I don't have a Firepod, but on the Fireface it's pretty easy. We'd probably need more information on your setup.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I understand how to get a stereo pan when I have recorded a track in Cubase via the Firepod, but i am not sure how I can hear synths in stereo if I am not recording them, just using the midi.listening from the Firepod headphones.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If you plug your headphones into the headphone jack on the back of the A6, is the signal stereo then?

I suspect maybe it's a mono signal to begin with and that's why it sounds mono thru the Firepod. Perhaps you were using some sort of stereo effect in Cubase?

Or are you only hearing a signal in one ear thru the firepod?

Might need to pull up the firepod config tool and see if it's
monitoring in mono or stereo. I don't have a firepod; I have the firebox, which doesn't allow monitoring at all unless the host application is running.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

its all stereo from my A6 , Serge modular etc, but if I am just using the Firepod without he computer on or before I record anything in cubase i dont get any stereo imaging at all, UNLESS i record the set the pan up in Cubase...So are you able to set up the Firepod to hear in stereo if so how. I was under the impression that its all mono until you pad in Cubase, BUT you need to have the track recorded first .
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I suspect you need to consult the Firepod manual. I know my Firebox doesn't do *anything* if the computer's not on. You may be in a similar situation with the Firepod; I don't know what it is supposed to do in the absence of a computer, but I suspect the Firepod manual will tell you.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hmm i can just turn on my firepod only no computer and hear the synths, but all tracks in mono,,,,same when the computer is on until i record and after recording set up left right channel in cubase, but cant do this ( hearing via the firepod) if using MIDI only
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

amnesia wrote:
hmm i can just turn on my firepod only no computer and hear the synths, but all tracks in mono,,,,same when the computer is on until i record and after recording set up left right channel in cubase, but cant do this ( hearing via the firepod) if using MIDI only


Not sure if this is your question or not -- but MIDI makes no sound of its own; it just sends information on what keys you're playing.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yes I know that, i am just trying to find out if its possible to hear my A6 in stereo via the firepod when i am only playing midi, in cubase when you recrd audio the mixer lets you pan left/right so can i set up the mixer to do this when i am just midi not recording audio
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

amnesia wrote:
yes I know that, i am just trying to find out if its possible to hear my A6 in stereo via the firepod when i am only playing midi, in cubase when you recrd audio the mixer lets you pan left/right so can i set up the mixer to do this when i am just midi not recording audio


Ok, it wasn't clear to me what you meant by "playing MIDI thru the Firepod". You mean, playing recorded midi data back to the A6, but not recording the audio?

Are you monitoring the A6 audio thru the software, or is there some sort of "zero latency monitoring" feature on the Firepod? (I don't have one, so I don't know.)

If so, maybe there's a separate configuration tool that lets you set up the hardware audio monitoring on the Firepod to do what you want.

I would check the Firepod manual and see if there's anything in there about hardware vs software monitoring. Hardware monitoring outpus the signal directly as it comes in from the inputs (direct from the A6), whereas software monitoring listens to the output of Cubase after all its processing.

It kind of sounds to me like maybe you are using both --- you can hear the A6 play back thru hardware monitoring when you are just sending midi data to the A6, but you are hearing the software output when you play back your recording.

Do you turn on the orange "monitor" icon (it looks like a little speaker, next to the record-enable button) in your audio track in Cubase when playing? If not, but you still can hear the A6, that's hardware monitoring.

I suspect what's going on is you have hardware monitoring on, but it's not configured properly, which is why it's in mono when you just play the keys.

But when you play back an audio recording in Cubase, by definition that's software output, and it is panned correctly.

One last question --- Is your A6 going directly to your FIrepod, and are your powered monitors plugged directly into the firepod?

If not (e.g. you have a mixer in there somewhere), then it's possible the problem lies in how you have the mixer set up.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If this is helpful, here's how I have my studio configured, so that I
can play my synths with or without the computer turned on:

I have all my hardware synths plugged into my Mackie mixer. The powered monitor speakers are plugged into the "Control Room" outputs, so I can adjust the volume using the control room fader.

The Firebox inputs are connected to the "Tape Out" on the mixer, and the Firebox outputs are connected to the "Tape In" on the mixer.

That way, the Firebox can always "hear" the mixer.

When I'm using Cubase, I hit the "Assign Tape In to Main Mix" button, which cuts off the the mixer input signals from the control room outputs, and only plays the output of the Firebox to the monitors.

But, if I want to play my synths without the computer on, I hit the "Assign Main out to Main Mix" button on the mixer, which mutes the Tape In, and puts the synth input mix to the monitors.

Then I just have to remeber the state of that button when recording.

The reason I have to do that is because the Firebox doesn't output any audio signal of any kind when the computer is not turned on. So if I want to be able to hear my synths without the computer on, I just hit the "Assign Main out to Main Mix" button, and the Tape In from the Firebox is ignored.

When I have the Tape In enabled (so that my monitors are only listening to the output of the Firebox), I have to be sure the monitor enable (orange button) is on for the selected track in Cubase, and that I have selected an audio track that is routed to the Firebox inputs/outputs. Otherwise, no sound!

Don't know if that helps, but it works for me!

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