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Stochastic
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Just thought I'd let people know,
I've signed up for the www.thirtydaysproject.com and as my project theme I'm teaching myself chuck by doing one 'song' a day.
You can view my codes and songs at http://www.sfu.ca/~edh2/april/
any feedback would be great, but keep in mind I'm new to all this so don't expect awesome programming skills
oh, and out of curiosity, is there a way to kill sporked shreds on command? |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject:
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Great! Looking forward to seeing how this develops.
About killing shreds; assuming you want to kill them using code (and not manual commands) the most straightforward way would be
Machine.remove( foo );
where foo is a integer that's the id of the shred you want to kill. There are more ways but this will probably do for now. It's treated in the manual in the section on the "machine" namespace and of course there are sections on shreds.
Good luck!
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject:
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| Stochastic wrote: | JI've signed up for the www.thirtydaysproject.com and as my project theme I'm teaching myself chuck by doing one 'song' a day.
oh, and out of curiosity, is there a way to kill sporked shreds on command? |
ACK! Thirty deadlines in thirty days! Well, that's one way to push yourself. It will be interesting to hear your songs, I remember writing some fun/good/OK stuff when I first started ChucKing so you can too.
The sporked shreads trick is one i have just discovered. You make a variable called int shred_id or similar and at the beginning of the shred's function definition you say "my.id () => shred_id;", then when you want to stop the shred you say "Machine.remove (shred_id);". It's a bit of a trick, but it works for me. I have a program that sporks or unsporks hundreds of shreds every "play" button push and it works fine there.
You can also reset shred_id to zero when you remove the shred and that way you can examine shred_id to see if the shred is launched, should you need that.
Good luck with your project and have fun learning ChucK!
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Stochastic
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject:
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hmm I was trying to get the id of a sporked shred, by doing:
spork ~ foo() => int id;
or
spork ~ foo() => Shred @ int id; (as the manual kinda suggested)
or
spork ~ foo() => Shred @=> int id; (as the compiler then suggested)
but the compiler was having troubles resolving types. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject:
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try this:
| Code: | // define the int
int id;
// define the function
function void shredder () {
// save the id
my.id () => id;
}
// spork the shred
spork ~ shredder ();
// wait
10::second => now;
// remove the shred
Machine.remove (id);
0 => id;
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or something like that, didn't test it.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject:
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The problem I have with that method is that I have various instances of the same function being sporked and my interest was in killing the older of the shreds.
Though I guess with a few adjustments it would be workable. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject:
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Well, we are limited by the fact that the ChucK spork command does not report the shred id. The Machine.add (string path); function does however return the shred's id value. So I guess you could put your shred in a separate external file and then run it with Machine.add if you want. That's another option.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject:
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So where they talk here: http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/doc/language/spork.html#spork
about storing a reference to the shred in offspring, what does that mean?
offspring isn't declared anywhere so I don't know what type it is (not listed in reserved words either). |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject:
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I think you're referring to this:
| Code: | // spork another, store reference to new shred in offspring
spork ~ go() => Shred @ offspring; |
I dunno about that, I've never understood it. Maybe someone can explain it? I think it's sending an image of itself to a variable called offspring that is defined as type Shred or something, but this is way advanced ChucK for me, lol.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject:
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| Oh, wait, I think I understand this. It stores a reference (see wikipedia) to the location of the Shred. This is much different than the ID number of the shred in the VM. I'm not sure of what this would be good for doing, but I'm no comp sci prof. |
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Yes, I think it is a a reference thingie. References dazzle and confuse me. I have yet to cozy up on them.
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Yes, I think it is a a reference thingie. References dazzle and confuse me. I have yet to cozy up on them.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:17 am Post subject:
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Is this what you're after (using references to get the id for removal):
| Code: | fun void sporky(){
<<<"Sporky","go!">>>;
second => now;
<<<"Sporky","leave...">>>;
}
spork~sporky();
2::second => now;
Shred shredReference;
spork~sporky() @=> shredReference;
0.5::second => now;
shredReference.id() => Machine.remove;
<<<"Sporky","killed.">>>;
3::second => now;
<<<"Have","a","nice",day>>>; |
I don't know why shredReference.exit(); doesn't work... Maybe a bug...
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Stochastic, how did your thirty days project go? I believe it has been more than thirty days since you started. Did you learn to ChucK or abandon the project?
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| I got de-railed by school work about 5 or 6 days into the project, and then exam cruch hit (I had misjudged my time commitments that month), so I never did get back on track with it. I may just do my own 30-days of ChucK sometime soon to repair my internal guilt for quitting so early. I am still programming ChucK here and there, but I've yet to feel confident in the language. |
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| Stochastic wrote: | | I got de-railed by school work about 5 or 6 days into the project, and then exam cruch hit (I had misjudged my time commitments that month), so I never did get back on track with it. I may just do my own 30-days of ChucK sometime soon to repair my internal guilt for quitting so early. I am still programming ChucK here and there, but I've yet to feel confident in the language. |
Oh, Stochastic, ChucK is best enjoyed like a fine wine - as often as you please! Don't feel bad about bailing out of your 30 days project, it served you well: you learned a few things and you're still ChucKing at least somewhat.
I remember with vivid clarity just how horribly demanding school can be, so take it easy and remember: ChucK will be there waiting for you, when the time is right! haha!
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Oh, Stochastic, ChucK is best enjoyed like a fine wine - |
Untill you can't stand up anymore?
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I love ab-fab.
I made the same mistake while sober. I was getting picked up from the airport in the UK and assumed I'd be in the front passenger seat because of my long legs. So, I move to open that door and the friendly driver who's standing next to the car says "oh, you can drive if you'd like, sure". I explain I don't have a license, then holding the door realise the mistake I made. Oops.
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