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magnus
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:21 am Post subject:
AMORE - an interesting concept Subject description: AMORE is a synth module concept |
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Jörgen Bergfors (of the Bergfotron fame) has created a new module concept which seems very well thought thru. Please check it out.
http://hem.bredband.net/bersyn/amore.htm
In short, it is a form of standardised format (three sizes) and module pinning. While this is a limitation for a few modules, it should allow a bulk of modules to use the same panels and same test-platform.
You could even make a standard front panel and just replace the printing plate as you move the modules around in your modular. |
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BananaPlug
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:16 am Post subject:
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Quote: | So any module can have no more than two inputs, two outputs and six controllable parameters. My research has proved this to be enough. |
I suggest further research. |
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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:01 am Post subject:
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I think it looks like a really good idea.
I do wonder though why there can't be any switch/digital connections. I also have a problem with the connector itself, as a quick check showed that those 2*20way right angle headers are not easy to get. Maybe IDC connectors would be better, or even D connectors, which are plentiful and cheap. _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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magnus
Joined: Aug 12, 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:19 am Post subject:
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BananaPlug wrote: | Quote: | So any module can have no more than two inputs, two outputs and six controllable parameters. My research has proved this to be enough. |
I suggest further research. |
The inputs are actually inputs to summation points. Thus, the panel can have
more signal inputs but they end up in either of the two signal input summations.
I too initially thought it was a little tight. There is for sure allways modules which does not fit the limit. I think you have too look at it this way, if 90% of the modules in a modular fits the limits, there is alot of gain in it. |
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blue hell
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:26 am Post subject:
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Uncle Krunkus wrote: | 2*20way right angle headers are not easy to get. |
we still use 'm by the bucket full at work ... that is the 100 mil stuff ... male / female / right angle / straight / single row / double row / everything ... maybe look for the snap-off variety instead of strictly 2*20 ? _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject:
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I'm just saying my "bread & butter" supplier (Jaycar) doesn't have them. Which is not all that surprising, the list of stuff I can't get at Jaycar is as long as my arm. I just thought that if you're designing a new standard you should try to use parts which can be found at the fruit shop. Know what I mean?
PS, Now you wouldn't dare tell me that you work at a fruit shop would you Jan? _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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blue hell
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject:
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Uncle Krunkus wrote: | PS, Now you wouldn't dare tell me that you work at a fruit shop would you Jan? |
As long as you don't call me a fruit cake
I'm surprised, this is bread and butter connectivity still I'd think, and at least they should have the snap off stuff so you cam make your own length. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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magnus
Joined: Aug 12, 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:25 am Post subject:
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Uncle Krunkus wrote: | I'm just saying my "bread & butter" supplier (Jaycar) doesn't have them. Which is not all that surprising, the list of stuff I can't get at Jaycar is as long as my arm. I just thought that if you're designing a new standard you should try to use parts which can be found at the fruit shop. Know what I mean? |
This is strange. I consider it an easy connector to get. I think it says more about your supplier than a generic supplier. But then again, we live at opposite parts of this world. |
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otherunicorn
Joined: May 11, 2008 Posts: 136 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:59 am Post subject:
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Uncle Krunkus wrote: | I'm just saying my "bread & butter" supplier (Jaycar) doesn't have them. |
Perhaps you should try "upgrading" to www.rockby.com.au
Jaycar are well on the way to becoming a "Dick Smith", which is now nothing more than a "Tandy". _________________ http://www.cgs.synth.net/ |
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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject:
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Thanks heaps for the link otherunicorn! They look really good. _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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françois
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:24 am Post subject:
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Oh yes! What an interesting idea!
I posted some time ago (on this forum IIRC) some similar thing, entitled "Universal Control Panel", but it was only a design idea. You managed to make it an actual design. Although I do not agree with everything, this is clearly a clean conception -- and mine, while (only) slighlty different, is quite similar.
For now, I have no direct objection to your design. Maybe the number of control voltages, or of input signals, might be different. Matter of taste.
Anyway, I *do* like the idea. Please go on !
Yours,
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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject:
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otherunicorn wrote: | Perhaps you should try "upgrading" to www.rockby.com.au
Jaycar are well on the way to becoming a "Dick Smith", which is now nothing more than a "Tandy". |
I just checked the actual prices on resistors (1% metal) at rockby, and found that they charge about 10 times the price of Jaycar. Unless you want to buy more than 1000 of a particular value.
Just not very realistic is it? _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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Luka
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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject:
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Yeah, I actually like Altronics the best at the moment. _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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