Chuck Haiku

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I was coding and I typed:

Kassen · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:24 am Post subject:

Sometimes....

But Haiku inherently need to be about everyday, commonplace things and need to reference a season. Counting syllables and and having a "twist" in the last phrase isn't enough to make a poem a Haiku, traditionally speaking.

Perhaps ChucKian limericks would be easier though arguably something like;

while( true) day => now;

...does reference every-day events. So, a haiku about not getting round to things due to a storm (which might refer to autumn)

Noise storm => dac;
while( true) day +=> now;
this_will_never_run();

...could be considered proper form.... but it's too "clever" (haiku are supposed to be accessible and this is only understandable to ChucKists). It's not very profound either.

Inventor · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:10 am Post subject:

OK, so it's no haiku, I just thought it was funny. Meh, i say, meh.

Kassen · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:19 am Post subject:

Yeah, I'm sorry... The whole Haiku thing is a lot more strict then many people know. Haiku isn't all that suitable for this sort of game but limericks are.

That not to say yours wasn't a nice poem, it's just not a haiku... mine wasn't either. Sorry.

Here you go, this seems like a nice start;

Inventor · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:32 am Post subject:

Uncle Krunkus · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:03 am Post subject:

kijjaz · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject:

"Lost in the Past"

Kassen · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:57 pm Post subject:

Inventor · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject:

Well, my poetry background is about zero or minus one at best, so whatever.

Kassen · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject:

You wrote song lyrics! That's a background. There is nobody that says poetry needs to rhyme or follow form, in fact some accomplished writers protested against that very thought.

I'd also argue that "one-line ChucK crazy" is a form of modern poetry, livecoding is too, probably.

Also; I didn't mean to say your poetry was "bad" but things like Haiku and to a lesser degree Limericks have a set form. Kinda like code has to compile a limerick has to follow that form or it's... -well- something else. It's not my fault, I didn't invent them. You are also perfectly free to invent your own forms, then compose in them, kind of like how "Boolean Sequencing" is no more or less valid then canons to ballads.

Also; you do get to have "poetic license" meaning that you can -if you feel the artistic need- ignore spelling or pronunciation (or grammar, or....) if you feel your poem needs it. To what degree you will still fit the form (if one) is then open for debate. In Haiku this is traditionally typically applied to the amount of syllables used (normally 5/7/5), in limericks more often to bending what "rhymes" and what doesn't. As a illustration I'll try to translate a Dutch Haiku I like,;

Snowman in the field,
Listens to the heavy rain,
Telling him goodbye.

(I inserted "heavy" to make the sylables match, it's not in the version I know in Dutch, which is actually 5/6/5, I think I prefer it without that extra word). It's 5/7/5, it references a season, it's about a common thing that everybody knows and it has a plot-twist in the last line; not such a easy form to compose at will.

I hope that's of some encouragement?

Inventor · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject:

Fascinating, i had no idea poetry was like programming, but yes I know that programming is like poetry. For example, consider the effects program I'm working on (attached). It is the Guitar Motion Sensor software that I'm writing. I am having a good, effective coding experience and the code seems very poetic to me.

It is four-stage effects chain with reverb, wah, distortion, tremolo, and volume effects at each position. Use Jack to route audio into it, then apply effects with the two shift keys and the mouse as described on the GMS website. I'd go add more effects but I'm tired of programming at the moment. phew!

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kijjaz · Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject:

Hmm i'm quite 0 or -1 with poetry also.
I guess music is the closest thing that let me feel like a poet hahaha..
I always read too few.

Kassen · Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:56 am Post subject:

Inventor · Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:14 am Post subject:

Inventor · Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:17 am Post subject:

Posted the video to the bottom of the GMS download page, which is here:

http://www.freedomodds.com/music/gms_dl.html

JImmi Hendrix wailing on the guitar at Woodstock, heh.