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seraph
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:13 am Post subject:
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this piece is my first attempt at writing a song using a "non octave" tuning and I think I succeeded in giving it a sense. I will never praise X.J. Scott enough for his LMSO. My heartfelt thanks
The scale is called labeled by Jeff as "entrancing meditative nonoctave"
Listen to Septimal Klezmer _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:40 am Post subject:
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seraph wrote: | I think I succeeded in giving it a sense. |
I took advantage of the "tonic shift" feature of LMSO 2.9.5 released few days ago. see the attached pictures.
"Tonic Shift" changes the Scale Pattern and the Anchor key simultaneously so that the Anchor note you see is different, but the resulting tuning made from the scale pattern stays the same, seeing different views of the same tuning.
See the one based on D2: if I play D2, F2 and D3 I get a just minor third interval (316 cents) and an octave (1200 cents). compare it with the other picture based on C3 [the same intervals (C3, E3, B3), on a regular keyboard, play a completely different chord]. Am I making myself clear
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:07 am Post subject:
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my wife told me this music sounds to her like the harbinger of forthcoming catastrophe or like some evil force crawling toward us holy cow _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:58 am Post subject:
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seraph wrote: | my wife told me this music sounds to her like the harbinger of forthcoming catastrophe or like some evil force crawling toward us :shock: holy cow :!: |
Mysteriuous, but it doesn't seem very harmfull to me. Friendly rather. Don't know if Wendy Carlos actually used a scale like this, but it reminds me a bit to beauty in the beast, I like it. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject:
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Blue Hell wrote: |
Mysteriuous, but it doesn't seem very harmfull to me. Friendly rather. Don't know if Wendy Carlos actually used a scale like this, but it reminds me a bit to beauty in the beast, I like it. |
the unknown (audio or not) may "sound" mysterious, dangerous and scary but not necessarily so actually I am a nice guy Beauty in the Beast is an absolute masterpiece and comparing my piece with it sounds to me as a great compliment. _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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This is an interesting ride. I gotta do some research. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject:
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Many sections can really go new places if the sounds are changed into something more fat and orchestral and some reverb is added.
Interesting stuff indeed. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject:
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elektro80 wrote: | Many sections can really go new places if the sounds are changed into something more fat and orchestral and some reverb is added.
Interesting stuff indeed. |
my orchestration is very simple, I was more concentrated on the music than on the sound but the piece could benefit from a lusher one, I guess . _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:45 am Post subject:
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Ahh! Excellent comments! Grats!
And just for the record, I like this too. It actually even got me thinking about looking into this "nono" stuff _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:47 am Post subject:
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seraph wrote: | elektro80 wrote: | Many sections can really go new places if the sounds are changed into something more fat and orchestral and some reverb is added.
Interesting stuff indeed. |
my orchestration is very simple, I was more concentrated on the music than on the sound but the piece could benefit from a lusher one, I guess . |
Sure, the music first! Anyways, there are some sections here which could have been explored further using rich timbres and stuff and .... Anyways, when I like stuff I kinda play along to it in my head and get ideas. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:53 am Post subject:
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elektro80 wrote: | there are some sections here which could have been explored further using rich timbres and stuff and .... |
there are timbral considerations when working with "xenharmonic" music that are different than when writing 12tET music but, of course, explorations can be tried.
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:20 am Post subject:
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seraph wrote: | there are timbral considerations when working with "xenharmonic" music that are different than when writing 12tET music |
Yes, that is very apparent and that is also exciting! _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Hey Carlo, here it is late 2008. Septimal Klezmer just came up on my iTunes list and I was thinking "Wow, this is awesome, what is this?" and looked and realized it was your piece from a couple years ago. It's aged well. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:16 am Post subject:
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thanks Jeff
that one came out well (very well I would dare to say ) _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:44 am Post subject:
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...I'll take your word for that seraph!
They are intriguing, and positively so, these strange tunings/tunes. I don't understand quite how it hangs together, so I just enjoy the different listening experience
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:14 am Post subject:
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DrJustice wrote: | I don't understand quite how it hangs together |
well...thanks for the positive feedback. I know, it sounds alien but that's what happens once you cross the border of xenharmonic territory _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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