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3rd run of PCBs for the PS3100 Resonators & the X-panfader
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thank you so much for your kind words, david. i hope i can meet the expectations.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

the module is finished and working - indeed there has been one faulty potentiometer and two LED have been reversed by the technitian Very Happy

here some pix. no sounds yet, i will have to go to bed and i will have to spend the next two evenings with my girl. so sounds sample hopefully on weekend.

don't look too sharp - i really had a bad time with the panner-fader proto: all transistors were reversed and i had to resolder them all...

PS3100 DT wiring UR

PS3100 DT wiring UL

PS3100 DT wiring

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

wow, looks great!

I would take two Panfader-PCBs. (already built a mono-version).
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

fonik wrote:
ericcoleridge wrote:
The Panner PCB can also be configured as a 'fader'? As is x-fader/cross-fader?

Is this so Fonik?

it is a fader and a panner at the same time. why? just because it does x-pan/x-fade: the left input is at the left output, while the right input is at the right output. then you x-fade/x-pan it until left in is at right out, and right in at right out. so the left output shows the left input first and then fades to the right input signal. looking at it the other way around the left input signal is first at the left output and then at the right output.
clear as mud: looking at two inputs but one output it is a fader, looking at one input but two outputs it is a panner. Very Happy


Thîs would be then more a kind of a Stereo Crossfader not ?
It is strange, i just was thinking in this Moment that i need such a circuit.



Me too have 2 old Resonator VCF Boards.
Can i use those or should i better get the new one ? i like to get something similar as you have built
and yup, thanks for the effort !
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Funky40 wrote:
fonik wrote:
ericcoleridge wrote:
The Panner PCB can also be configured as a 'fader'? As is x-fader/cross-fader?

Is this so Fonik?

it is a fader and a panner at the same time. why? just because it does x-pan/x-fade: the left input is at the left output, while the right input is at the right output. then you x-fade/x-pan it until left in is at right out, and right in at right out. so the left output shows the left input first and then fades to the right input signal. looking at it the other way around the left input signal is first at the left output and then at the right output.
clear as mud: looking at two inputs but one output it is a fader, looking at one input but two outputs it is a panner. Very Happy


Thîs would be then more a kind of a Stereo Crossfader not ?
It is strange, i just was thinking in this Moment that i need such a circuit.



Me too have 2 old Resonator VCF Boards.
Can i use those or should i better get the new one ? i like to get something similar as you have built
and yup, thanks for the effort !

you could use the old boards, you would just have to wire the outputs of each single resonator to one input of the stereo-x-cross-panner-fader-whatever-you-call-it PCB.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'll take two of the X-panfaders and possibly 1 ps3100 pcb
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

girl's gone to sleep, i did a very first sample with my new PS3100 DoubleTrouble. This is not for showing isolated functions, but the sound of the PS3100 DT in musical context (SN voice controlled by Klee2).

PS3100 DT setup as follows: internal LFO controls 1st and 3rd Resonator, 3rd Resonators CV inverted. internal LFO controls pan, too.
Klee2 CV controls the SN Voice (fed to harmonic suboscillator). one Klee2 gate controls x-pan of PS3100 DT, other Klee2 gate controls 2nd Resonators freq.

First you'll hear the dry signal (just the SN voice + sub oscillator - however one Klee2 gate crosstalks), then the wet signal.
in the middle i switch the sn voice to noise.

http://www.modular.fonik.de/sound/PS3100_DT_001.mp3 821 KB

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i recorded some sound snippets to demontrate what the PS3100 DT is doing.


PS3100_DT_006.mp3
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x-faderpanner only, fading: the two VCOs to left and right input, only right output used (fading, mono).

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PS3100_DT_005.mp3
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x-faderpanner only, x-panning: the two VCOs to left and right input, both outputs used (x-panning, stereo).

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PS3100_DT_004.mp3
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x-faderpanner only, panning: both VCOs to left input, both outputs used (panning stereo).

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PS3100_DT_003.mp3
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squarewave from TH 8038 VCO fed into the PS3100 DT. external LFO controlling VCOs freq, resonator #1 freq and spread...

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PS3100_DT_002.mp3
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TH 3038 VCO fed into PS3100 DT. nothing else, just switching between different modes, no spread (mono), manual spread, inverted CV for resonator #3, LFO cnotrolls spread, and so on...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shocked

must have.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

me want!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Very exciting. Not sure if you're starting to take count to get a rough idea of what your run will be but I'm in for 2 Resonator PCBs and 4 Panner/Fader PCBs.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I would definitely be in for 1 or 2 panner/fader PCBs
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

crashlander42 wrote:
Shocked

must have.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Can't wait to get me on a couple of these

+2 please!!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

+1 Resonator pcb
+2 Fader Panner pcb

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello!

I'll take two of each!

Thanks Much,
-dustin
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

+1 Resonator pcb
+2 Fader Panner pcb

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Please add me to the list, 2 each of the PS3100 & the Xpanfa.

The PS3100 sounds fantastic by the way.

Thank you
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Laughing
okay, you guys want me to start a list for advance orders? i did not plan this for now, since i will have to pay for the TH SCM PCBs first. so it will take a while until i can order the resonators/panner pcbs. woud mid-march for delivery be okay with you all?
however, i start the list on monday and will calculate the price for the panner PCB...

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That sounds great, one of each for me Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Fonik,

Do you have a general range for the x-pan/fader price? Probably under $10US, yeah?

Depending on price, I'd like 4 to 6 Pan/Fader PCBs.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:05 am    Post subject: 3rd run of PCBs for the PS3100 Resonators & the X-panfader Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'd be interested in boards for this as well. Looks and sounds like great project!

Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i start a list for advance orders by now. everyone interested should tell me the quantity he definetely wants. that would be very helpful. don't hesitate to contact me via PM, email or by posting in this thread (even if you already did it).

PRICING:
(under the assumption of minimum advance orders for 50 PCB each to make the manufacturing happen):
PS3100 PCB 13.-USD/10.-EUR
X-Panner PCB 10.-USD/7.50EUR

+ packaging & postage
7.-USD worldwide
2.50 EUR europe
2.- EUR deutschland


PCBs should be available mid-march, i guess.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Matthias,how does the VC has been implemented on the panner?

symmetrical,asymmetrical and what are the voltages?

Regards
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

1 resonator and 1 panner pcb please.

George
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