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searching for the jarrepad in sysex format
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darkphase1982



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:23 am    Post subject: searching for the jarrepad in sysex format Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi,
I'm searching for the jarrepad as sysex-file which has been posted here in mp3 format by soundwave106. Can someone post it in banker friendly format when it exists. I have so called two left hands in programming.

Cheers
Michael
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jonkull



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You already have it. 065 bank 2. It's a preset. What makes it sound unique in the MP3 example is that it's being run through 3 outboard effects boxes. You need those effects (or something similar) to get the same sound.
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soundwave106



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Correct.

The key signature effect for that pad is the EH Small Stone pedal. In my opinion the built-in effects for the Andromeda have nothing that sounds even remotely close to the Small Stone phaser. I can't even think of a VST that sounds 100% close offhand.

The other effects add color but you can make substitutions there easier.

Supposedly Jarre used a modified Small Stone, but I find that I can get that signature "feeling" from the out-of-box Small Stone.

I actually got a whole bundle of guitar pedals that I'm wanting to play with. Those who ignore synths through guitar pedals miss out on a lot. Very Happy

I may post the Sysex eventually, for those who have lost the original bank, but I've been doing a decent amount of shows and practices lately, so my keyboard is currently not available in the studio right now...
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ThreeFingersOfLove



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

soundwave106 wrote:
In my opinion the built-in effects for the Andromeda have nothing that sounds even remotely close to the Small Stone phaser.


Well, you don't need a Small-Stone phaser to get the results you want. You have two wonderful filters in front of you, with parallel/serial configurations and plenty of LFOs to make a pseudo-phaser.

Of course it never hurts to have extra pedals around.. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, having those filters handy is a good idea for "string ensemble" clone patches, after all. Smile

I'm not entirely 100% sure of the technical implementation of the Small Stone to know whether you can achieve similar results with standard analog synth filters. Looking things up, it seems that phasers use all-pass filters whose only purpose is phase shifting.

Some effects you definitely can do with your standard analog synth, for instance, wahs can easily be simulated with resonant bandpass filters. Smile
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