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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OK, everyone, let's all vote. If you like you can vote anonymously by sending me a PM. So far there are two votes, mine and someone else's. I'll announce the winner as we get closer to the end of January, which is in about two weeks.

Also, there will be a choice of prizes, not necessarily a sphere. In addition to the sphere, the winner may choose a wide bracelet or a finger ring. I have three finger rings, sizes 8.5, 11, and 12.5 and the bracelet is 7.5 inches so it fits a lady's small wrist size. The finger rings are Sterling silver and the bracelet is bright aluminum with silver clasp. The size 11 finger ring is reversible and when reversed it fits a 10.5 size. Ooooo lovely chainmaille jewelry!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm listening to all these fine pieces and will cast my vote when my mind is made up.

Just to let you know that non-participants are also listening and voting!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

DrJustice wrote:
I'm listening to all these fine pieces and will cast my vote when my mind is made up.

Just to let you know that non-participants are also listening and voting!

DJ
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Haha! Sure, your vote is welcome here DJ. Someone else voted, so I now have three votes. Below is a picture of the bracelet (somewhat blurry).


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:37 am    Post subject: Microsoft music-writing software Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Enjoy! Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That kind of makes me want to slap someone.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That's cool, I might write a ChucK program to do that! And from Microsoft? There's hope for them yet.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:51 am    Post subject: I should have issued a warning Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Heh heh --

I should have cautioned people before viewing the video.

Not for the faint of heart.

I may have to listen to some Slayer to get this out of my system.

Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:57 am    Post subject: Re: I should have issued a warning Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

kkissinger wrote:
I should have cautioned


You sort of did with the Twisted Evil thingie, but erm ... well ... yes ... see you later ... Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: I should have issued a warning Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

kkissinger wrote:
Heh heh --

I should have cautioned people before viewing the video.

Not for the faint of heart.

I may have to listen to some Slayer to get this out of my system.

Twisted Evil


Good Idea. I think that much sugar coating has given me diabetes, or at least cavities! But the program's concept is great.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Maybe Seinfeld could make it less horrible. Oh, wait...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

btw, is that a Mac with a sticker covering the logo?

can someone confirm this.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: According to the comments on YouTube Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

it is, indeed, a Mac Book.

Irony never ceases.

Wonder if Songsmith runs on Vista? Confused

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Come on fellows, you are too good for polluting this otherwise excellent thread with thinly veiled non-Mac-stuff bashing. Right? Twisted Evil

Get on with the voting instead.

Gotta admit that was some horrible songs, though.... Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

DrJustice wrote:
Gotta admit that was some horrible songs, though.... Laughing


Reminds of this neighbor I once had, on nice summer evenings he would bring out his loudspeakers and play horrible music for the rest of the street ... I complained once, and he just said: "oh, don't you like music?" (but would turn down the volume a bit nevertheless).

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

RF wrote:
That kind of makes me want to slap someone.

McCain and Obama supporters come together at last! Although, personally, it made me feel more like throwing up. I can't believe I made it through the whole thing.

Googling "Microsoft Research Computer Music" takes you to Song (ahem) smith.

Searching for "music" in the Google Labs Research page gets you a couple of algorithm papers.

Googling "Bell Labs Computer Music" takes you to Max Mathews et. al.

Anyone care to vote among those three?

Being an ex Bell Labber of 25 years, I wasn't too impressed when I interviewed at Google Labs in 2007, and apparently they weren't too impressed with me. I guess I should be pretty happy I'm out of corporate America now. Thank goodness I'm not working on crap like Songsmith.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Acoustic Interloper wrote:

Googling "Bell Labs Computer Music" takes you to Max Mathews et. al.


At the bottom of that web page:
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Max Mathews spent the majority of his career at Bell Labs as an engineer, conducting behavioral and acoustic research. Legend has it that in the 1950's Max Mathews would pipe the music of his late night computer noodling through the Murray Hill labs intercom system. There's no information on the effect it had on the custodial staff, but it would hardly have raised an eyebrow in the collaborative research community of the time. Mathews' music was not an "official" AT&T project -- but he was allowed free access to any equipment he wanted to use on his "socially desirable" side project.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

We should perhaps remember that cheesy auto accompaniment (is there any other kind?) has been with us for several decades in the form of stand alone instruments as well as computer programs. The only new(?) thing here is that the showcased product tracks the voice for use as the 'solo instrument'.

Cheesiness to the people! It's what they want, after all... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

LOL, am I the only one who saw any novelty in it? I suppose after a little over a year in music I am still a newbie! Although the video was painfully sugar coated, to see the evil empire of Microsoft do something fun and whimsical for a change was very refreshing to me. Maybe they will change their ways and give us a decent operating system next time, who knows? Just my two cents, and that's about what it's worth!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

the concept is cool, but Microsoft really needs to do something about it's marketing.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: Microsoft music-writing software Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

kkissinger wrote:
Enjoy! Twisted Evil


This Songsmith thing just shows why nobody has yet voted for the "making composition easier / faster" option in the recent algorithmic composition poll.

A ready-made solution like this will always give you the same sqweezy-cheezy rubbish. Unless of course its pre-programmed repertoire is chosen by you and it can actually extract patterns and generate new ones in similar style) - like EMI.

It's been good to see so many of us developing our own quirky algorithms. We the composers doing all the work and deserving the credit - the way it should be!...

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Any news about the results of the voting ?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

kara wrote:
Any news about the results of the voting ?

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The voting is complete! There were a total of four votes, two of which were for our winner... Antimon (Stefan)! Stefan would you please post or pm with your choice of prizes, a sphere, a bracelet, or a finger ring? Thanks to everyone for competing. I just dreamed up a silly little contest on a whim one evening and it turned into a modest dash of fun and spice to our lives. Certainly everyone's participation made it interesting!

So Stefan, choose your prize! (And PM me your address).

Les

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Congratz to Antimon Cool

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shocked Embarassed Very Happy

Thanks very much! I have to think about this for a little while...

/Stefan

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Congrats Stefan

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