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cantgetnosleep
Joined: Feb 06, 2009 Posts: 3 Location: austin, tx
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject:
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Hello all,
I've had an A6 for several years and lately I've been having trouble syncing it to my computer. My setup is as follows:
Macbook pro.
Logic 8.0.2
MOTU midi express XT
When I try and sync the A6 to logic, the arp and the sequencer have a hard time staying on beat. They seem to either start early or late. Sometimes when I turn the machine off and back on, that helps. I can record what sounds like a perfect take into Logic, with the timing right, and when I play it back, it's off again. In fact, each time I play from logic, the notes seem to start erratically early or late.
I have the sync source set to MIDI on the A6, and Logic is sending midi clock, with Logic's sync source set to "internal".
Has any body had similar issues? Any ideas? This is driving me a bit nuts, so I'd appreciate any help...especially before I send it in to get it looked at because it's not under warranty and, coming from Texas, I'd have to mail it to either NY or LA to get it serviced.
I did read somewhere that the A6's delay will not sync to clock, and I've noticed this, but even with the delay off, I'm still having issues.
It's also possible that this is a problem with Logic and the MOTU unit. However, I don't have this problem with any of my other synths, so I feel like that's unlikely.
Many thanks - Andrew |
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blue hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 24079 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject:
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Andrew, I can see why you cant get no sleep, sort of
I hope someone will know, but maybe you can make the PC sync to the synth instead? _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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robertdouglas13
Joined: Feb 07, 2009 Posts: 8 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:15 am Post subject:
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Hello I have the same problem as you have, on an Imac with Logic 8.02, but with all my synths, the USB ones Acess Snow and Korg Micro X, and the midi ones like the JP 8000. Not only that but when by chance an arp sequence runs more or less correctly and I want to record it by whether an audio in track or boucing it through an external instrument track, the arp stops and all i record is a long 4 bars boring note. The only way i found is to record the arp pattern in midi, and then play it from logic as a succession of notes.
Mind as well that all midi synths don't play at the same speed. The Snow: same timing as Logic plugins . The Micro Korg: ahead of the beat, the old midi ones lag far behind. All this is automatically compensated within logic but strangely only through "external instrument" track and not trough an audio in track.
Well, sorry, I'm not very helpful here, but just to say that the problem may come from Logic itself. In my case it's pretty sure, it's not like all my machines have an arp problem.
Douglas. |
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cantgetnosleep
Joined: Feb 06, 2009 Posts: 3 Location: austin, tx
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for the responses and welcomes. Yeah, unfortunately I think MIDI is kind of a forgotten step child. Douglas - sounds like you're having more problems than me there. I can feel your pain.
Take it easy. |
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robertdouglas13
Joined: Feb 07, 2009 Posts: 8 Location: France
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:39 am Post subject:
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Hello, Thanks for the advice about calming down, after a month and half wasted on midi and arp problems I've finally given up defeated. But as some kind of retaliation I'm going to burn all my hardware synths and do everything with sofwares. They might not sound as good but they work, and in sync. And I'm not even sure they don't sound as good.
Well,
Bye.
Douglas "not-zen-yet". |
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jonkull
Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 164 Location: Burbank, CA
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:31 pm Post subject:
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Hello. I use an A6 with Logic 8 on a MacBook Pro and haven't noticed the timing issues you describe. I use an M-Audio MidiSport 4x4 so...maybe it's a MOTU issue? I'll go play around with some arps/seqs now just to make sure and post my results here. |
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jonkull
Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 164 Location: Burbank, CA
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:43 pm Post subject:
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Nope. No sync problems here. I tried with my M-Audio interface and my MOTU Ultralite's MIDI port. One thing I did notice is that some of the presets have odd numbers of steps...like 6 or 7 instead of 4 or 8. They sound out of sync when played back from Logic in 4/4 time. |
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cantgetnosleep
Joined: Feb 06, 2009 Posts: 3 Location: austin, tx
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject:
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Jonkull: Thanks for checking. I've wondered if it's the motu unit, but since I don't seem to have the problem with my other synths, I'm not sure. However, that said, I use my A6 much more than my other synths, so maybe I'm just noticing it. I do have an M-Audio 2x2 and I'll check with that and see if the problem goes away. Hmm.
Cheers - Andrew |
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egw
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Joined: Feb 01, 2003 Posts: 1569 Location: Asheville NC
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject:
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I think you have to send a midi "start" message to make the arp/seq sync up. _________________ www.gregwaltzer.com |
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