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dave_3283
Joined: Jan 30, 2009 Posts: 28 Location: Dallas TX
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:46 pm Post subject:
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May as well jump in. I'd take two. I feel the momentum building... |
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softfin
Joined: Oct 11, 2006 Posts: 271 Location: Far in the north
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject:
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Definately interested! I would probably take a pair of these boards. |
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krisp14u
Joined: Nov 11, 2006 Posts: 206 Location: uk
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject:
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If it’s a head count I would be up for 1 maybe 2 if I had the money at the time
JH have you dropped the Deltalab delay board? _________________ Cheers
Paul Darlow
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jhaible
Joined: May 25, 2007 Posts: 2014 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:43 pm Post subject:
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krisp14u wrote: | If it’s a head count I would be up for 1 maybe 2 if I had the money at the time
JH have you dropped the Deltalab delay board? |
I don't spend much thought about it at the moment at least.
JH. _________________ "I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours." (Mk 11,23f) |
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mono-poly
Joined: Jul 07, 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject:
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me want |
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Luka
Joined: Jun 29, 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: Melb.
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djthomaswhite
Joined: Nov 22, 2007 Posts: 140 Location: Orange, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject:
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Any delay PCB that is CV controlled for Rate and Mod would get an order for two PCB's from me. Even better would be to allow the external DC adapter so it could be built into a larger pedal enclosure for guitars with expression pedals.
Thomas
Time Machine's go immediately when they come up for sale. So fast it is hard to ever find one. I need a Jurgen delay!!! _________________ Thomas
www.naturalrhythmmusic.com/diy.html |
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TekniK
Joined: Aug 10, 2008 Posts: 1059
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:59 pm Post subject:
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If its a clever design with noise filters and long delay i take 2 boards minimum
(keep in mind there is an malekko delay comming in euro) |
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Funky40
Joined: Sep 24, 2005 Posts: 875 Location: Swiss
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:21 am Post subject:
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jhaible wrote: | Big question is why has John discontinued his Time Machine, if there is so much demand for a delay, and enough supply of BBD chips?
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What i know is that the TM has several hard to find parts, but i could not tell you how hard.
The other thing is that there where fake 3005ers out there.
Dieter doepfer warned me about this, nomore shure if he directly told that he got fakes. ( but i think he did get )
while mailing with Dieter ( it was about modifieng his 4096stager to have 2x 4096stages ) there showed up 100x 3005ers on eBAy, i asked him if he knows that vendor.
Well the next Day they where all gone. but that must bot been him .
since then the 3005ers showed up only every now and then and only in _very_ small quantitys.( ok, i don't checked so often )
there has changed definitly something !
when making now a surch at ratbay you get several Vendors that seem to have some more than just a handful
---> Jürgen, would your Board also take just a single BBD, 256 or 512stages,
so that one can either build a Delay or a more Karplus strong/FX oriented BBD ?
If so, it would double up my number |
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jhaible
Joined: May 25, 2007 Posts: 2014 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:03 am Post subject:
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Funky40 wrote: | ---> Jürgen, would your Board also take just a single BBD, 256 or 512stages,
so that one can either build a Delay or a more Karplus strong/FX oriented BBD ?
If so, it would double up my number |
Well at the monet it's just a vague idea.
But I think it won't be hard to allow BBDs of different length to be used.
JH. _________________ "I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours." (Mk 11,23f) |
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TekniK
Joined: Aug 10, 2008 Posts: 1059
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:13 am Post subject:
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ow,if the MN3005 is hard to find like that its not wise to use this in your design Juergen. |
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Luka
Joined: Jun 29, 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: Melb.
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moosapotamus
Joined: May 11, 2007 Posts: 113 Location: New Hampshire USA
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Funky40
Joined: Sep 24, 2005 Posts: 875 Location: Swiss
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject:
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jhaible wrote: |
Well at the monet it's just a vague idea.
But I think it won't be hard to allow BBDs of different length to be used.
JH. |
Yep, just an Idea, but a nice one
If the Board is good for universal use, i think i would take 8 ( and sell my doepfer BBDs )
Luka wrote: | purchasing 3005s as we speak |
with what vendor did you go ? |
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xpmtl
Joined: Aug 10, 2007 Posts: 162 Location: Brussels, Belgium
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mono-poly
Joined: Jul 07, 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:43 am Post subject:
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I rather do not purchase from coolaudio.
I have some real bad experience with them. |
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jhaible
Joined: May 25, 2007 Posts: 2014 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:11 am Post subject:
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mono-poly wrote: | I rather do not purchase from coolaudio.
I have some real bad experience with them. |
These are from the same series of BBDs that also are in Behringer's Dimension C clone, aren't they?
I thought that Behringer stompbox did sound snice, especially for the price, if it wasn't for that horrible overload behaviour. Maybe it's due to these low-voltage BBDs. I think the old, 15V BBDs have a rather pleasant overload characteristic, especially in combination with low pass filtering. And if you add a vactrol limiter with fast response time, it's analogue bliss. I'm not sure the same can be achieved with these low voltage BBDs. I don't say it's impossible - I just say I wouldn't know how to do it. For the MN3005, I have experience from modifying an Amdek Delay Machine. (That haunting noise on "October 96" from my first CD is just a few notes from the CS-50 caught in that Vactrol'ed MN3005 delay with infinite repeat.)
JH. _________________ "I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours." (Mk 11,23f) |
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Luka
Joined: Jun 29, 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: Melb.
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:18 am Post subject:
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Luka wrote: | purchasing 3005s as we speak |
with what vendor did you go ?[/quote]
synth_ollie was selling some in the parts buy/sell section of this forum
he got them from chipforbrains/technologytransplant
ive researched the hongkongsupperseller 3005s and sounds like there have been a few instances of him selling repackaged mn3008s... ive had good IC supplies from them so far (mn3007s, 3080s). that could be an option if you want to risk your $$$
ive mentioned this fact on a few forums and being flamed for it but i trust chipforbrinas more than hkss. even though im happy to buy a lot of non-IC components from hkss i belive the IC they get are not checked for authenticity. _________________ problemchild
melbourne australia
http://cycleofproblems.blogspot.com/
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whomper
Joined: Dec 15, 2007 Posts: 201 Location: Israel
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:33 am Post subject:
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I have built two analog delays around the MN3208 and MN3205 and am interested in the difference of MN3005 vs MN3205 with respect to sound quality.
Can someone shed some light on actual real world sound differences? _________________ Erez Yaary
Home Page: http://www.yaary.com
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mono-poly
Joined: Jul 07, 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:49 am Post subject:
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My bad experience was getting no product shipped ater i paypalled them.
After a month they replied that their webshop was already down when i placed my order.
I got my monney back but they should have contacted me after i paid them and not when i asked when i couldsd expect to get my stuff. |
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Serenadi
Joined: Jul 03, 2007 Posts: 89 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:00 pm Post subject:
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jhaible wrote: | Funky40 wrote: | ---> Jürgen, would your Board also take just a single BBD, 256 or 512stages,
so that one can either build a Delay or a more Karplus strong/FX oriented BBD ?
If so, it would double up my number |
Well at the monet it's just a vague idea.
But I think it won't be hard to allow BBDs of different length to be used.
JH. |
That would be so great.
I'm not interested in long delay times, therefor I use digital ones.
But I'm very much interested in having an 1V/Oct. Karplus-Strong machine (or two ).
So the possibility to insert MN3006 (128), MN3009 (256) or MN3004 (512) also would be a hit.
jhaible wrote: | These are from the same series of BBDs that also are in Behringer's Dimension C clone, aren't they? |
As far as I know (rumours, rumours ... ) CoolAudio IS Behringer.
Another rumour, I heard, is that they sell only to resellers in huge quantities (1000 pcs or so), but that may be wrong information.
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JuergenPB
Joined: Oct 30, 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Paderborn / Germany
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:51 am Post subject:
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Serenadi wrote: | As far as I know (rumours, rumours ... ) CoolAudio IS Behringer. |
As far as I know.... You are right.
Besides CoolAudio, there is another manufacturer of BBD. "The Shanghai Belling Co."
Thy call their producs BL3207 and BL3208. --- Low voltage type (5-10V), like the MN3207/3208.
You'll find the datasheets on ther homepage: http://www.belling.com.cn/col89/col90/article.htm1?id=1567
btw.
Here http://www.sdiy.org/BBDHell/ you find a BBD-Manual from Panasonic. |
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billy pilgrim
Joined: Feb 12, 2008 Posts: 36 Location: nyc
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:33 pm Post subject:
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jhaible wrote: | Spratty wrote: | $20 seems pretty cheap compared to prices I've seen...
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Right. The question is, how many of these are around today, and will be around in 6 months, when such a PCB could be finished?
I'd hate to invest 2000 Dollars in a PCB run and prototype, and then sit on the boards ...
JH. |
I've been offered 100 MN3005's for $18/piece. I'd have no interest in making a profit but I'll get them if there's enough interest and this project looks like happening. ?? |
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Funky40
Joined: Sep 24, 2005 Posts: 875 Location: Swiss
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:20 am Post subject:
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have you the possibility to check if they are good ?
I think the bigger problem than if one costs some dollars more or less is the risk to get bad ones.
On a big order thats then a real problem
I would take up to 8 i think, maybe more if i take also for other Friends |
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ach_gott
Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 79 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:03 am Post subject:
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You won't have any problems getting rid of the chips. If the project supports more than one BBD chip, I'd get more than the 2 boards, but I would certainly take some of the MN3005s off your hands as well. I have a couple of modules that use them and having some good backups would be wise on my part. So it looks like you'll have no problems there.
I'd be taking 6 to 8 MN3005s myself, though I would take only what I need if the demand for the chips for this project eat up enough of your (still hypothetical) supply. |
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