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senkun
Joined: Feb 25, 2009 Posts: 9 Location: TPE
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:12 am Post subject:
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Hello,
Apologies if this has been asked before, I'm really new to this and I've been reading various threads for the past few days, which has left me more confused than ever. I have very little electronics knowledge but can solder anything together from a kit with good docs.
So, I'm starting on a build of Ray's Soundlab and would like to play it with a controller of any sorts, as long as it's cheap and easy to build or buy.
I know of the MFOS Mini-Controller (the stylophone looking thingy) but would rather implement either some push button switches on the Soundlab case or go with a modified toy keyboard or something else that involves the fingers.
What are my options here?
I also came across a thread about Softpot ribbon controllers, now that would be ideal! But the discussion left me dizzy and it looks extremely complicated.
Is there a cheap and simple way to interface the Softpot to the Soundlab? Has anyone done this?
Please don't bite, thanks! |
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RF
Joined: Mar 23, 2007 Posts: 1502 Location: Northern Minnesota, USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:22 am Post subject:
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http://www.cgs.synth.net/modules/cgs10_pedal.html
I built one of those up using a 16 button telephone style keypad...It works quite well.
Re: softpot
Have you seen this controller circuit?
http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-32246.html
It's still in the early stages but is a bit less complicated. I have not built it (although my opa134's for it came yesterday) and there is no PCB for it. Keep an eye on it, though.
Good luck
bruce _________________ www.sdiy.org/rfeng
"I want to make these sounds that go wooo-wooo-ah-woo-woo.”
(Herb Deutsch to Bob Moog ~1963) |
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senkun
Joined: Feb 25, 2009 Posts: 9 Location: TPE
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:54 am Post subject:
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Hi RF,
Thanks for the quick suggestions.
Mmm, that pedal module looks interesting. Keypad on the SL front panel would be nice.
Would a 12 button keypad work?
I also noticed the pedal module needs +/-15V, would it work with the +/-9V from the SL? Or would I need 2 power sources then?
Re: softpot
Although I would much prefer a Softpot controller, I would have to wait until/unless a PCB for it comes out. I can't build from a schematic to save my life!
Unless there are any existing kits or a ready made ribbon controller available anywhere that I can just plug in to the SL's CV in?
Anyone know? |
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jochem
Joined: Aug 10, 2008 Posts: 56 Location: groningen
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:48 am Post subject:
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I'm still building my soundlab, but also bought a octave controller and 16step sequencer for it. Pcb's came from ray's site.
I want to build the octave controller into the synth body. |
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skylab76
Joined: Dec 30, 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Austin
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:12 pm Post subject:
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If you're open to use a MIDI controller, maybe you should look into this bitty MIDI2CV interface.
Im contemplating on building this directly into my soundlab or putting it in a small enclosure with jack outputs.
I havent received it yet, but I'll keep you guys posted if you're interested. |
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senkun
Joined: Feb 25, 2009 Posts: 9 Location: TPE
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:20 am Post subject:
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Hey Jaybugg,
Thanks for the link, I'm keeping all my options open. I'm putting my case design on hold until I get my SL built and try out different controllers.
So, yeah please post when you get your set up done! I'd like to know how it works out |
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senkun
Joined: Feb 25, 2009 Posts: 9 Location: TPE
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:28 am Post subject:
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jochem wrote: | I'm still building my soundlab, but also bought a octave controller and 16step sequencer for it. Pcb's came from ray's site.
I want to build the octave controller into the synth body. |
Is that the single buss 1V/Oct controller? Do you have a keyboard for that or do you have something else in mind? Or just sequencer controlled? |
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jochem
Joined: Aug 10, 2008 Posts: 56 Location: groningen
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:58 am Post subject:
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Single buss 1V/Oct controller indeed. I plan on using the sequencer, not much of a keyboard guy myself. |
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skylab76
Joined: Dec 30, 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Austin
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:47 am Post subject:
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senkun wrote: | Hey Jaybugg,
Thanks for the link, I'm keeping all my options open. I'm putting my case design on hold until I get my SL built and try out different controllers.
So, yeah please post when you get your set up done! I'd like to know how it works out |
UPDATE: I got it and installed it (easiest DIY project ever):
The program button lets you assign any MIDI event and/or channel to each of two CV/Gate output pairs. It works great with my old yamaha XP-30 and my soundlab. |
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LetterBeacon
Joined: Mar 18, 2008 Posts: 454 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:09 am Post subject:
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Excellent, thanks for reporting back! |
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Limp
Joined: Apr 23, 2009 Posts: 6 Location: sweden
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:46 am Post subject:
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Hi, Looks great.
Im quite new to the DIY-synth scene and I'm just wondering how to power that little MIDI2CV-interface.Thinkning about buying it for my soundlab. I have the soundlab powered by two 9v-batteries (+9, -9v) Is it possible to use this to power the MIDI2CV or do I need to use a separate PSU for that?
/L |
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skylab76
Joined: Dec 30, 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Austin
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:20 pm Post subject:
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Limp wrote: | Hi, Looks great.
Im quite new to the DIY-synth scene and I'm just wondering how to power that little MIDI2CV-interface.Thinkning about buying it for my soundlab. I have the soundlab powered by two 9v-batteries (+9, -9v) Is it possible to use this to power the MIDI2CV or do I need to use a separate PSU for that?
/L |
Yeah, you can use the +9V and ground from your batteries that power the soundlab (except of course, your batteries will have a slightly shorter lifespan).
Or use a separate 9V battery just for the MIDI2CV. |
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A30N
Joined: May 06, 2009 Posts: 44 Location: Southampton, England
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 8:22 am Post subject:
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skylab76 wrote: | senkun wrote: | Hey Jaybugg,
Thanks for the link, I'm keeping all my options open. I'm putting my case design on hold until I get my SL built and try out different controllers.
So, yeah please post when you get your set up done! I'd like to know how it works out |
UPDATE: I got it and installed it (easiest DIY project ever):
The program button lets you assign any MIDI event and/or channel to each of two CV/Gate output pairs. It works great with my old yamaha XP-30 and my soundlab. |
Hi Skylab,
I think i would like to go with this as it seems the easy option,.
I been trying to contact the guy who makes them over the last few days with no response. How did you get in contact with him and does it usually take a while for him to get back to you? Also once you paid your money how long did it take to arrive?
Thanks
Jamie |
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Limp
Joined: Apr 23, 2009 Posts: 6 Location: sweden
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 8:51 am Post subject:
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A30N:
This is why I have a MCV-628 lying around .... I also think this is the way to go with the "midimplant". This small little midi/cv-interface seems perfect for the soundlab. I've also had problems getting in touch with the guy who makes them. I orderd it on april 27th and sent him a e-mail a week later wondering how long it would take for it to arrive.. No answer yet.... |
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A30N
Joined: May 06, 2009 Posts: 44 Location: Southampton, England
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:08 am Post subject:
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Limp wrote: | A30N:
This is why I have a MCV-628 lying around .... I also think this is the way to go with the "midimplant". This small little midi/cv-interface seems perfect for the soundlab. I've also had problems getting in touch with the guy who makes them. I orderd it on april 27th and sent him a e-mail a week later wondering how long it would take for it to arrive.. No answer yet.... |
I think its the best way for me as i have no serial port on pc to program pics, i dont have to build a separate power supply and its small and fits nice into the the soundlab... all win
It trying to get hold of him is the only problem, i dont really want to part with cash untill he contacts me
Cheers,
Jamie |
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skylab76
Joined: Dec 30, 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Austin
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 12:59 pm Post subject:
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A30N, Limp,
He has two email addresses. Try info@midi-hardware.com. He responded almost immediately with that one. I didn't get a response from query@... .
And it took a long time for it to arrive (about a month). |
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A30N
Joined: May 06, 2009 Posts: 44 Location: Southampton, England
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:20 am Post subject:
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skylab76 wrote: | A30N, Limp,
He has two email addresses. Try info@midi-hardware.com. He responded almost immediately with that one. I didn't get a response from query@... .
And it took a long time for it to arrive (about a month). |
I managed to get hold of him now thanks and i will be ordering on friday |
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Wizard Mike
Joined: Jan 26, 2009 Posts: 52 Location: Charlotte
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A30N
Joined: May 06, 2009 Posts: 44 Location: Southampton, England
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 4:08 pm Post subject:
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lol,
I have trouble controlling my own body with my mind sometimes, cant see me being able to make the synth work |
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TheMilford
Joined: Jan 09, 2010 Posts: 6 Location: TheMilford
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:04 am Post subject:
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senkun wrote: |
UPDATE: I got it and installed it (easiest DIY project ever):
The program button lets you assign any MIDI event and/or channel to each of two CV/Gate output pairs. It works great with my old yamaha XP-30 and my soundlab. |
Through TONS of snooping around the net I was able to finally find this guy's site. For a spell I was worried that using the Sound Lab with a proper keyboard would either be a headache or very expensive. I looked into everything from building a CV keyboard using a Fatar keybed with one of Ray's CV board to building the Paia Midi2CV... both of which just seemed to pricey and a bit of overkill for the Sound Lab and my budget.
This seems to be a great solution. Can anybody else confirm if this is a nice match with the SL?
I'll be ordering board from Ray this week and probably this MIDI2CV as well. As long as it's a pretty good match.
Also, can this M1D12CV do portamento?
I'm curious why this isn't a more common solution...
Cheers,
David |
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urbanspaceman
Joined: Feb 26, 2008 Posts: 77 Location: italy
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:43 am Post subject:
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Hi, i want to build a soundlab mark2 and i need the midimplant interface
someone has a schematics used to connect the sl and the midimplant?
i want the keys, the pitch wheel, the mod wheel and if possible, the velocity on the filter
tnx |
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