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ian-s



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:11 pm    Post subject: Mass Destruction Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sort of a work in progress.


MassDestruction!.prf2
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synthetic voice experiment

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oooo, very cool. Mass Destruction - obviously. Sounds ominous. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Defenatly the coolest performances around...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

welcome PsYx, glad to have you here...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:52 am    Post subject: MassDestruction Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

WoWWWWWWWWW Rolling Eyes Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanxx, MOSC...
Yea...i'm new 2 the world of the G2, but not 2 synthesizers in general...
Made some patches in the month that i have this wonderfull machine...but not like most of you guys are programming...
Thanxx for the patches guys !!!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well Ian, you're definitely a G2's guru patcher!

Excellent Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Totally ass-kicking! Thank you Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

now i am hoping we can hear an mp3 of this....
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm assuming Ian won't mind...


mass-destruction.mp3
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Mass Destruction - A G2 performance which is a work in progress. Demonstrates the G2 as a speech synthesizer among other things. This is a real-time recording.

Copyright 2004 by Ian Sayer

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Very cool. How did you do the sequencer module programming to get those words out of the vocoder?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Fozzie wrote:
Very cool. How did you do the sequencer module programming to get those words out of the vocoder?


I started with a wav file generated from the excellent online TTS demo from AT&T. I then used Praat www.praat.org to get the frequency curves of the 1st three formants. The sequencers control the frequency and amplitude of three sine oscillators. The sines are just mixed and fed to the vocoder. The 1st sequencer row also switches between voiced/unvoiced modes. Praat is an excellent application for studying speech. I started out closely matching each point one at a time but found that a visual approximation of the curves was close enough. The phrase is broken down into four sections and sequenced by changing variations.

If I can figure the internal structure and checksum calculations of a patch file, I may write a program to automate the translation from Praat to a generic talking pch.

For those who are curious, if you patch the summed sine waves directly to the audio out, you can still understand the speech (so long as you know what it is supposed to be saying). See also http://www.haskins.yale.edu/haskins/MISC/SWS/SENTENCE/S9.html

And thanks everyone for the kind words.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That is a facinating web site. Listening to those sine wave files is amazing. Thanks. I've studies speech and audio for years and never heard these kinds of tracks. No matter how smart I think I am, it never surprises me to find out I'm not.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I feel a bit stupid as well now, I'd been reading about the praat software in a newspaper a few years ago and how amazing it was, thought it to be interesting and even dowwnloaded some stuff. But I failed to see the light ... I'll have another look at it.

Sofar I only managed to listen to the mp3, but as a speech example I think the patch is very good.

Also I thought it to be interesting to note that Kees van der Maarel has been making several speech patches (for G2 but also for NM Classic) in the past by using a diferent (maybe less methodological) approach, but also with amazing results.

Ok, I'll now first have a look at the patch.

Jan.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hey, that rocks...excellent sounds/track or synth patch or...whatever you call it , sounds great
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

An amazing piece of work G2ian!!!
GREAT!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This is amazing! Slot A is quite cool while he says "mass destruction" Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sort of finished now. Not too different from the original. I had planned on lots of Mass Destruction sounds but when I looked for them, I couldn’t find any.
The speech block is simplified, turns out that the separate volume curve for each formant is not strictly necessary.


MassDestruction3.prf2
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Latest version of speech performance

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massDestruction.mp3
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mp3 for prf2

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ian, this is the coolest use of automated variations I've seen yet. Get's me thinking about making more complex state machines without uneccessary modules in a patch.
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