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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:25 pm    Post subject: bernat/rlainhart iPhone Jam at EM2009 Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here's a version of the opening of the iPhone jam which took place Saturday night in the lounge at electro-music 2009. In the beginning, it was just bernat and I, she playing Nlog (I think) and I Wivi Band. Things got more chaotic as more people joined - I think we had 7 jamming at the max - although there were still many worthwhile moments. But I thought our performance together was a beautiful beginning to the jam. I've added some processing, but the basic form is what you hear.

Those who were there may recall that it was raining heavily that evening, hence the name of the track, "Evening Rain".


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Beautiful indeed!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, nLog. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wow, that turned out beautiful.

We posted this on our new myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/24hoursthegirl

If that's a problem, let us know and we'll take it down.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

No, no problem.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That was really nice to listen to. Thanks for posting it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

was curious what apps you two used on your iphones for this piece?

The music is very lovely. i have been considering an itouch...these sounds make me consider it more now.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

shanemorris wrote:
was curious what apps you two used on your iphones for this piece?

The music is very lovely. i have been considering an itouch...these sounds make me consider it more now.

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I think they mentioned them in the first post: nLog and Wivi Band.

There are really a huge number of good noisemaking apps for the iPhone, though. I remember playing with one that was developed by Brian Eno, I think it's called Bloom.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks beth

I read right over them. Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

shanemorris wrote:
thanks beth

I read right over them. Laughing


No worries, I can't count the number of times I've asked a question that was already answered.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks, Shane.

As Beth mentioned, Wivi Band and nLog.

I really think the iPhone/iPod Touch platform is becoming a viable musical instrument in its own right, and there are more new and interesting musical apps appearing every day. And I think we can see where the rumored Apple touchscreen tablet will go as its own music platform, once it's released - in fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see many current iPhone music apps ported more or less intact to the Tablet, but with even greater functionality and modes of expression. It's really an interesting time for these kinds of instruments....

If you get the Touch, take a look at Bebot, nLog, Wivi Band, JR Hexatone Pro, Bloom, Air, SynthPond, Curtis, Junglinge, DopplerPad, TouchDJ, and Trope, among many others.


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The music is very lovely. i have been considering an itouch...these sounds make me consider it more now.

thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

rlainhart wrote:
If you get the Touch, take a look at Bebot, nLog, Wivi Band, JR Hexatone Pro, Bloom, Air, SynthPond, Curtis, Junglinge, DopplerPad, TouchDJ, and Trope, among many others.


See : http://electro-music.com/forum/forum-176.html

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rlainhart wrote:

rumored Apple touchscreen tablet


For those who came to hit on my Lemur during the weekend, I summed it up as a giant iPhone screen that sends MIDI. I don't know what the iPhone tablet will do, or cost, but I heartily recommend the Lemur to anyone who wants a multitouch controller for sending MIDI or OSC to a computer.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks Richard... I appreciate the app recommendations...just what I needed.
I actually just returned from Best Buy on my lunch break. I played with the itouch for a while. I think I want one now Laughing

Thanks for the iphone forum link too Jan Very Happy It is a wonderful resource.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wow! That's gorgeous! I gotta get BOTH of those apps for my Touch! Thanks for posting.
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This track could make me go get one of those devices. In fact I got an iPod touch mini for free when I bought my daughter a Macbook this summer, but my son has that now Very Happy

Of course, I was the last in our house to get a cell phone, about 5 years after having written software tools for developers putting apps on cell phones for about 10 years.

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For those who came to hit on my Lemur during the weekend, I summed it up as a giant iPhone screen that sends MIDI. I don't know what the iPhone tablet will do, or cost, but I heartily recommend the Lemur to anyone who wants a multitouch controller for sending MIDI or OSC to a computer.


I had a question about that Lemur back when it first came out, and never got round to asking it: Is the "GUI" that is displayed on the Lemur fully customizable, partly customizable, or not at all? I have a grant proposal in for some equipment, and was considering a pen tablet, but based on your enthusiasm I should check out the Lemur before I buy.

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bbinkovitz wrote:
rlainhart wrote:

rumored Apple touchscreen tablet


For those who came to hit on my Lemur during the weekend, I summed it up as a giant iPhone screen that sends MIDI. I don't know what the iPhone tablet will do, or cost, but I heartily recommend the Lemur to anyone who wants a multitouch controller for sending MIDI or OSC to a computer.


I have TouchOSC for my iPhone, had I been thinking more clearly I would have shown it to some people. It even has an editor so you can make your own pad combinations. I send it to OSCulator on my mac to translate to MIDI events since I don't have much else that speaks OSC right now.

It's a great time for Apple, with the iPhone/iPod Touch apps, and the fantastic applications available on the rest of the Apple platform.

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igot an itouch this week and nlog and wivi band were in my first downloads.

Nlog is amazing for a free app and ilove it!

Also Im really enjoying Bloom & Melodica Very Happy

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I had a question about that Lemur back when it first came out, and never got round to asking it: Is the "GUI" that is displayed on the Lemur fully customizable, partly customizable, or not at all? I have a grant proposal in for some equipment, and was considering a pen tablet, but based on your enthusiasm I should check out the Lemur before I buy.


Since nobody more knowledgeable than I has chimed in:
Yes,according to the web site,they are fully customizable.

Read more here:http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php

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I had a question about that Lemur back when it first came out, and never got round to asking it: Is the "GUI" that is displayed on the Lemur fully customizable, partly customizable, or not at all? I have a grant proposal in for some equipment, and was considering a pen tablet, but based on your enthusiasm I should check out the Lemur before I buy.


Since nobody more knowledgeable than I has chimed in:
Yes,according to the web site,they are fully customizable.

Read more here:http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php

Thanks. I had looked at the specs when Lemur first came out, but didn't know enough about controlling musical devices to comprehend it all. That has changed.

The next question would be whether it makes sense to consider getting a Lemur, or wait for larger device technology from Apple. It seems that other than size, everything that you can do with a Lemur you might possibly do with an iPhone or iPod Touch. Is that true???

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It seems that other than size, everything that you can do with a Lemur you might possibly do with an iPhone or iPod Touch. Is that true???

I seriously doubt that you can do everything a Lemur does in miniature with Touchosc,but not having used either I'm not the one to attempt to answer that.
I will say this though:Having just gotten Nlog,and ISyn trying to tweak stuff on those tiny controls is hardly ergonomic.2 x 3 ain't 12 x 12.(This is one instance where size undoubtedly makes a difference.) Very Happy

But,yeah waiting to see what Apple cooks up might be prudent as well.

I'm gonna get Touchosc,I just gotta set up a wireless network first.

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this is a beautiful improvisation



and thanks for that list of apps, will get downloading some more ..



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Since nobody more knowledgeable than I has chimed in:
Yes,according to the web site,they are fully customizable.

Read more here:http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php

Thanks. I had looked at the specs when Lemur first came out, but didn't know enough about controlling musical devices to comprehend it all. That has changed.

The next question would be whether it makes sense to consider getting a Lemur, or wait for larger device technology from Apple. It seems that other than size, everything that you can do with a Lemur you might possibly do with an iPhone or iPod Touch. Is that true???[/quote]

i don't know what a potential future apple tablet may or may not be able to do, but one of the things that makes the lemur really worth it to me is the software that comes with it. i've said it before and i'll say it again: the software is great for just jumping in and getting started, easy to learn about, and has a scripting language that allows for a lot of detail and control, if you want it.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wow! I missed this one.

Gorgeous indeed!!

NLog is super indeed. Has Rolf heard this yet? (NLog developer). I'll post him a link to here.

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bbinkovitz wrote:

i don't know what a potential future apple tablet may or may not be able to do, but one of the things that makes the lemur really worth it to me is the software that comes with it. i've said it before and i'll say it again: the software is great for just jumping in and getting started, easy to learn about, and has a scripting language that allows for a lot of detail and control, if you want it.

Thanks! I am looking to design a game to replace Scrabble-to-MIDI, partly for Scrabble trademark reasons, and partly to design a game intended for music improvisation and performance. On one hand I'd like a game composed entirely of free software components that can be played on stock hardware (Scrabble-to-MIDI is entirely in Java and thus qualifies), but I'd like the option of having alternative, touch screen game boards. It seems like Lemur may be a way to go with this.

It would in fact be possible to create alternative, pluggable game GUIs on 1) Lemur, or on 2) iPhone, or 3) conventional display+mouse GUIs. I like that idea. That way no player would have to buy special hardware, but one could take advantage of it if available.

I am still waiting for a grant proposal that is due back for acceptance or rejection by November 30. If that comes through, Lemur is pretty high on the list at this point.

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