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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:06 am Post subject:
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What does "through-composed" mean? _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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arcticranger
Joined: Feb 15, 2010 Posts: 4 Location: nyc
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:22 am Post subject:
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Uncle Krunkus wrote: | What does "through-composed" mean? |
I abused the term, it really means a piece of music without any significant repetition. I meant anything in the written classical tradition: Bartok, Stravinsky, Barber, etc. Best to wiki it because everyone uses it differently.
But I still love My Sex and Hiroshima Mon Amour by John Foxx! If you like Foxx you might want to check out 'New Machine' by Tuxedomoon, also 'Russia' by Elisa Waut. Classic minimalist electronic. |
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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:20 pm Post subject:
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I've got the Desire/No Tears CD by Tuxedomoon, I've loved most of those tracks since the mid 80s. Often thought about checking out some other Tuxedomoon CDs, but haven't yet. More Residents would be a good addition too.
There's very little music I like which doesn't repeat part of the theme at least once. Have you heard "I like repetetive music" by Regurgitator? _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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kkissinger
Joined: Mar 28, 2006 Posts: 1354 Location: Kansas City, Mo USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:34 pm Post subject:
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Through-composed doesn't necessarily mean that there is no repetition.
A through-composed work does not repeat sections but can certainly repeat themes and motives.
Thus, a minimalist work that repeats a theme and varies the theme over time would be a form of through-composition. _________________ -- Kevin
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arcticranger
Joined: Feb 15, 2010 Posts: 4 Location: nyc
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:49 pm Post subject:
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I would not chase down any more Tuxedomoon, that EP was their best. I lost interest in the Residents after Eskimo. A few other good things.
Felt Mountain - Goldfrapp before they went commercial
Subliminal Sandwich - Meat Beat Manifesto
Kesto - 4-CD set by minimal electronic duo Pan Sonic
and if you want the twilight zone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEYWGQMqC74
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRapJ5CvB_U |
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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject:
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Felt Mountain is very good. Reminds me a bit of Portishead, which are also great.
At the moment I'm getting into an Australian band called the Presets. They're a bit more doof doof than most of my favourites, but I'm quite happy as long there are some original sounds and strong melodies. _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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bladerunner
Joined: Mar 13, 2009 Posts: 14 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 12:25 pm Post subject:
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the very first album that really made me want to write music was jarre's oxygene. i first heard it when i was about 12 (in 1988) and even when i play it today it still sounds as fresh and i still hear new things. kraftwerks electric cafe also had a big impact upon me around the same time although strangely, i am not quite so fond of it now.
since that time my favourite is probably autechre. for me, they really are in a different place from everyone else. i can't even begin to fathom how they design sound, write and compose. i love all of their albums and ep's although standouts would be:
amber lp
garbage ep
confield lp
quadrange ep
oversteps lp
Uncle Krunkus wrote: | For me it would be Metamatic - John Foxx. It has an inspiring and original feel which has stayed as fresh as the first time I heard it. (1981)
Followed closely by The Pleasure Principle - Gary Numan. Very clean layers of early analogue synths, plus real bass, drums, and violin.
Kraftwerk, Eno, Bill Nelson, Cocteau Twins, Simple Minds, etc. are all favourites too. |
i love metamatic although i came quite late to it - probably around 1997 was the first time i listened to it properly. it was always being played at my friends house when i was around 6 - 8 years old so i did have some buried memories of it when i came to listen to it properly. bill nelson is a firm favourite too - sounding the ritual echo is an underrated album imo. |
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ThinAir
Joined: Oct 21, 2009 Posts: 18 Location: Media, PA
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:19 am Post subject:
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Ligeti http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ligeti
Karlheinz Stockhausen
Charles Ives
J.S. Bach
Shpongle
Grateful Dead (live concerts)
Steve Reich
Electronic music is still music. Electronics is only the latest in centuries of technology change that has spawned new ideas for music, starting with the pipe organ. [/url] _________________ Steve Bowman
ThinAir
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Ojd
Joined: Feb 22, 2008 Posts: 66 Location: Ua
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:11 pm Post subject:
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Tuxedomoon's discography is varied, but I absolutely recommend Ghost Sonata.
Also Coil. Strange no one mentioned them. How to destroy angels (1992) is the best minimalistic piece i've ever listened to (new Trent Reznor's group named after this piece). Probably there's no other artist with such varied discography (compare Dark age of love and tunnel of goats).
Harmonia (74-76)- probably with Autobahn, and Kraftwerk 1 the best music (electronic) you'll ever get. Listening to these makes me think that all of the progress, midi, DAWs just fuzzed things up. Its about simplicity.
NEU! Of course its NEU!, NEU!2 and NEU!75.
DAF, Front 242. Especially 242. Geography (1981). When i listen to it i think "how they did it?". I really dig No comment and Tyranny for you. Always intelligent. This is what postmodern is about.
Cabaret Voltaire. Well, THE godfathers. I love their late 70 - early 80 period, with titles like "Walls of Jericho", 2X45, Red Mecca, Crackdown, Microphonies. But in late 80ies became more of a minimal techno/acid house. Still my favorites |
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abstraktor
Joined: Apr 27, 2009 Posts: 190 Location: glasgow, scotland
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:03 pm Post subject:
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I saw Michael Rother a few weeks ago at his Hallogallo Neu tribute gig and I have to say that my initial worries were groundless because the trio were great! They played a Harmonia track as well (i think the synths came from his laptop though). I agree with Ojd about the early Cabs as well. There's also one side of a Leer & Rental LP (The Bridge) which is incredible industrial ambient music from 1978! Let's not forget TG's 20 Jazz funk greats either-almost the opposite of the JMJ type style popular at the time. |
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Winterbound
Joined: Aug 06, 2010 Posts: 80 Location: N. Ireland/Lisburn
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:33 pm Post subject:
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Just a few of my favourite tracks and artists.
Steve Roach - The View from here
Robert Rich - Starmaker
Kraftwerk - Spacelab
Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygen series.
Lustmord - Trinity
Paul Mounsey - North
Tangerine Dream - Reset
As for inspiration, well I get that from just about anywhere and anything. |
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YashN
Joined: Jun 27, 2011 Posts: 104 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:22 pm Post subject:
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Jarre: Oxygene, Equinoxe, Les Chants Magnétiques, Rendez-Vous, ZooLook
Kraftwerk: The Man Machine
Depeche Mode: Speak and Spell, A Broken Frame, Construction Time Again, Some Great Reward
Yaz(oo): Upstairs at Eric's, You and Me Both
Erasure: Wonderland, The Circus, Chorus
The Human League: Travelogue
Tears For Fears: The Hurting, Songs from the Big Chair
New Order: Substance
Eurythmics: (Love is a stranger, Here comes the rain again)
Gary Numan: Early works
Sandra (Michael Cretu): early works
Kim Wilde
Information Society
Mylène Farmer (Laurent Boutonnat) |
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YashN
Joined: Jun 27, 2011 Posts: 104 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:26 pm Post subject:
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It's hard to beat "Black Cherry" by Goldfrapp.
arcticranger wrote: | I would not chase down any more Tuxedomoon, that EP was their best. I lost interest in the Residents after Eskimo. A few other good things.
Felt Mountain - Goldfrapp before they went commercial
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tlu
Joined: Feb 26, 2011 Posts: 5 Location: Pacific Northwest
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:08 pm Post subject:
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FAVORITE ARTIST: Hans-Joachim Roedelius
Born 1934 - still touring. |
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Antimon
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:38 am Post subject:
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tlu wrote: | FAVORITE ARTIST: Hans-Joachim Roedelius
Born 1934 - still touring. |
+1
If I made a list he would be in there as well. I don't think I've caught that much of his work actually, but I adore the albums Lustwandel and Geschenk des Augenblicks. _________________ Antimon's Window
@soundcloud @Flattr home - you can't explain music |
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:32 pm Post subject:
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Ojd wrote: | Also Coil. Strange no one mentioned them. |
Yes, well... someone has good taste around here! I was just wandering around the seldom traversed regions of E-M and found this. As I was reading the usual to be expected influences... I was just about to mention Coil, when I realised it already has been mentioned! The live in Moscow concert you can find on youtube is worth watching. Another good live album is ...And The Ambulance Died In His Arms.
You can never have too much Coil. Shame they are no more |
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gr00veh0lmes
Joined: Sep 13, 2011 Posts: 6 Location: Wales
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:57 am Post subject:
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So i take it Aphex Twin is passé on this board?
First heard him on John peel back in 1991 i think. It was a remix of a curve track. I just thought it sounded weird, but then i came across his ambient works 85 -92 and i was just totally blown away.
I still listen to it to this day.
Mind you when i heard 24 track loop by This Heat.
Wow |
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YashN
Joined: Jun 27, 2011 Posts: 104 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:09 pm Post subject:
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Just only started exploring Roach, Rich and especially Terry Riley.
Riley is totally mystical and makes beautiful music with simple, sometimes acoustic sounds, but overall it sounds electronic.
Winterbound wrote: |
Steve Roach - The View from here
Robert Rich - Starmaker
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abstraktor
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:43 pm Post subject:
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gr00veh0lmes wrote: | So i take it Aphex Twin is passé on this board?
First heard him on John peel back in 1991 i think. It was a remix of a curve track. I just thought it sounded weird, but then i came across his ambient works 85 -92 and i was just totally blown away.
I still listen to it to this day.
Mind you when i heard 24 track loop by This Heat.
Wow |
yeah -the 1st This Heat album is something else. I have a magazine somewhere from 1978, when they talk about how they did 24 track tape loop in the studio. |
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v-un-v
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:05 pm Post subject:
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My old friend (I haven't seen him for yonks), Tony Child aka Surgeon released his latest LP this year after a break of 11 years away from making techno.
"Breaking the frame" was released in June 2011, and what I've heard so far, it's really rather good (especially if you like experimental techno, I noticed Richard Aphex James mentioned just back).
Some links for listening here;
http://www.discogs.com/Surgeon-Breaking-The-Frame/master/340635
I heard Morton Feldman's 'Coptic Light' the other day. Although it's orchestral it would appeal to anyone into experimental electronic music Brilliant stuff. _________________ ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. |
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v-un-v
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:07 pm Post subject:
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YashN wrote: |
Riley is totally mystical and makes beautiful music with simple, sometimes acoustic sounds, but overall it sounds electronic.
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You should definitely listen to Feldman's Coptic Light! _________________ ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. |
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capitan mission
Joined: Mar 27, 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Patagonia, Argentina
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:40 pm Post subject:
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My favorites, mmm something like:
Stockhausen: Edition 3, Electronische Musik
Kraftwerk: Trans Europa Express
Delia Derbyshire & White Noise: An electric storm
Neu!: Neu!
Early Popol Vuh records
Aphex Twin: Drukqs
Boards of Canada: Music has the right to the children _________________ “You may fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time"
A. Lincoln
My music: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Capitan-Mission/124520374261493
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onewayness
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:58 am Post subject:
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capitan mission wrote: | Neu!: Neu!
Early Popol Vuh records
Boards of Canada: Music has the right to the children |
Yes. These.
adam / onewayness |
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v-un-v
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:05 am Post subject:
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onewayness wrote: | capitan mission wrote: | Neu!: Neu!
Early Popol Vuh records
Boards of Canada: Music has the right to the children |
Yes. These.
adam / onewayness |
Just give me the first two, scrap the 3rd! _________________ ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. |
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YashN
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:26 am Post subject:
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Hmmm, I did by finding tracks on Youtube. Feldman sounds nothing like Riley at all. Where Riley is mystical, trancey, harmonious, melodious, raga-like and surprising, Coptic Light by Feldman is chaotic.
Riley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVc2tJUjeZU
Feldman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKuGhfN3Cgc&feature=related
Riley any day instead of Feldman for me.
v-un-v wrote: | YashN wrote: |
Riley is totally mystical and makes beautiful music with simple, sometimes acoustic sounds, but overall it sounds electronic.
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