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Octahedra



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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

audiodef wrote:
DrJustice wrote:
Sounds like you want an Origin. I just ordered one... Smile

I would love to hear some samples when you get it.


As it turns out, the page for this synth that I posted above, does link to some audio samples here:

http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/origin/media.html#audio

Now I'm glad you asked - I'll give these a listen myself!

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

modulator_esp wrote:
my dream synth would be something like a Nord modular G2 with modules modelled on existing analogue circuits that were sonically indistinguishable from the real thing, with the ability to patch without needing a PC and enough DSP to switch sounds and patch without the horrible silence you get now


*nods*

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

DrJustice wrote:

Sounds like you want an Origin. I just ordered one... Smile



can't say I've been that impressed with what I've heard from the origin so far and I'm not a big fan of the arturia recreations I've tried, but it seems like a nice concept

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

iPassenger wrote:
modulator_esp wrote:
my dream synth would be something like a Nord modular G2 with modules modelled on existing analogue circuits that were sonically indistinguishable from the real thing, with the ability to patch without needing a PC and enough DSP to switch sounds and patch without the horrible silence you get now


*nods*


but, as nice as dreaming of perfect synths might be, sometimes it's better to just get on with it and work within the limitations Smile

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sometimes it's the limitations that inspire creativity.
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

modulator_esp wrote:
iPassenger wrote:
modulator_esp wrote:
my dream synth would be something like a Nord modular G2 with modules modelled on existing analogue circuits that were sonically indistinguishable from the real thing, with the ability to patch without needing a PC and enough DSP to switch sounds and patch without the horrible silence you get now


*nods*


but, as nice as dreaming of perfect synths might be, sometimes it's better to just get on with it and work within the limitations Smile


The truth is even if we had all this we'd still be hankering for more.

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Inventor wrote:
While some of these dream synths require complex user interfaces or impossible ones with current technology, there does seem to be a commonality to some of them. Apparently polyphany and generally multiple outputs is a big deal, among other themes. I wonder if we should gather up ideas and consider building such a synth, as hardware or software... just a thought.

Les


I would add portability.

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ocp wrote:
Inventor wrote:
While some of these dream synths require complex user interfaces or impossible ones with current technology, there does seem to be a commonality to some of them. Apparently polyphany and generally multiple outputs is a big deal, among other themes. I wonder if we should gather up ideas and consider building such a synth, as hardware or software... just a thought.

Les


I would add portability.


Perhaps a stack of these boards would make a nice dream synth:

http://www.electro-music.com/forum/topic-38909.html

Each board has a processor, a DSP, analog and digital I/O, and USB. They could be stacked on spacers and connected with ribbon cables.

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Kyma.

It's not perfect, but it exists.

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Muied Lumens wrote:
Kyma.

It's not perfect, but it exists.


This?

http://www.symbolicsound.com/cgi-bin/bin/view/Company/WebHome
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

audiodef wrote:
Muied Lumens wrote:
Kyma.

It's not perfect, but it exists.


This?

http://www.symbolicsound.com/cgi-bin/bin/view/Company/WebHome


Yes Audiodef. Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Where would you buy a Kyma? I didn't see anything about purchasing or ordering.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

audiodef wrote:
Where would you buy a Kyma? I didn't see anything about purchasing or ordering.


There is an order thingie at the top of the page, which brings you to : http://www.symbolicsound.com/cgi-bin/bin/view/Order/WebHome

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Back in the early 90s I visualized my dream synth, which was essentially a digital (or fiber optic, see below) interface connected to a large bank of truly analog modules.

The way I saw it, there would be a fairly large controller section with all the knobs, sliders, switches, etc. but these would be virtual controls that would connect to the analog sound engine via a cable or cables. The controller section would be only 2.5" to 3" thick, but wide and tall enough to hold the controls for the whole synth.

The system would have to have a fixed number/configuration of modules because it would be problematic to add to the controller.

Anyway, without understanding anything about fiber optics really, it seemed to me that maybe the controller could communicate to the sound engine via fiber optics. And since then I've seen where fiber optics have been used to to transmit analog signals..."Analog Optical Link" or "Analog Fiber Link". Like this product: http://www.lab-systems.com/products/fib-opt/afl500/index.html

Patching, I was thinking, would be done with switches or push-button matrix style connections.

Well......I can dream, can't I?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:

There is an order thingie at the top of the page, which brings you to : http://www.symbolicsound.com/cgi-bin/bin/view/Order/WebHome


Spensive! And dependent upon either Windoze or sMac. I'd have to pass. Buying synths that depend on a specific computer OS is, in my book, not cool. These things should stand on their own.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

emdot_ambient wrote:

Well......I can dream, can't I?


Mmm... really liking this one! Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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but, as nice as dreaming of perfect synths might be, sometimes it's better to just get on with it and work within the limitations



I would also agree that the limitations make you work and create more. Get's you to find the workarounds that you or someone else may not have thought of initially. Think of all the limitations yesteryear had and we got a legacy of great music to listen and look to for inspiration of limitations.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

My brain is the perfect synth. It's just that when I go to get the music out, it all goes horribly wrong Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

v-un-v wrote:
My brain is the perfect synth. It's just that when I go to get the music out, it all goes horribly wrong Shocked


Visualizing horrible picture of someone sticking his hand through a hole in his head, brain substance splattering everywhere....

But yeah... some application that can look into my mind and record the music I'm thinking of, that would be pretty awesome. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

v-un-v wrote:
My brain is the perfect synth. It's just that when I go to get the music out, it all goes horribly wrong Shocked


I also find that the finished music never quite turns out as good as the original idea seemed when you first had it! Sad Even in my case where the ideas come to me as completely abstract patterns and composing techniques - I never hear music in my head.

And even if you record your brain activity directly, you're never going to be able to get the electrodes inside the right parts of your brain, let alone find the correct mappings to convert the voltages into the sounds you're imagining...



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