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equalpyramid
Joined: Oct 09, 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:41 am Post subject:
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I want to mod this and need some help. It uses an MN3007 BBD, and I'm wondering if I can piggy-back another MN3007 to it to make the delay longer. I heard you could basically combine 4 MN3005 chips when you mod a 3005 circuit.
Also, I want to take the power cord off and replace it with a modular synth power connection (euro or motm). Any thoughts?
Here's a pic of a similar unit:
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kjackman

Joined: Sep 05, 2010 Posts: 69 Location: Utah, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:41 pm Post subject:
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Unfortunately, I'm not qualified to help out, but it sounds cool. I'll be watching this thread  |
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RF

Joined: Mar 23, 2007 Posts: 1482 Location: Northern Minnesota, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:10 am Post subject:
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I can't tell you about the delay mods - but I took the board from one of these and used it in my modular.
The power supply and the circuit board were separate- it was easy to find the power supply leads. I don't recall offhand if it was bi-polar or not - but my modular power supply is + and -12 volts. I replaced the pots and jacks with thru-hole variants that I use in my modular face plates.
Good luck
bruce _________________ www.sdiy.org/rfeng
"I want to make these sounds that go wooo-wooo-ah-woo-woo.”
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equalpyramid
Joined: Oct 09, 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:05 pm Post subject:
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| Thanks. I'll do a bit more research before I tackle this. Increasing the delay by a factor of 2 or 4 would be a significant improvement. I'll also be adding CV to the delay. |
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Lorenzo

Joined: Nov 09, 2008 Posts: 338 Location: Trieste - Italyjstan
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:47 am Post subject:
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| equalpyramid wrote: | | It uses an MN3007 BBD, and I'm wondering if I can piggy-back another MN3007 to it to make the delay longer. |
I heard something like this about my Ibanez delay, I could double the echo time "piggy-backing" a second identical chip!!
But i haven't an extra delay chip (4164-type) so I only increasing the repeat signal adjusting a trigger... O o o o ooooOOOOO0000°°°°°°° ;D
anyway I think you have to solder all the pins of the two chips together except the DATA-IN pins and DATA-OUT pins. Bend data-OUT of the lower chip away from the pcb. ... Connect this ouput of the lower chip with the input of the upper chip and connect the ouput of the upper chip with the pcb.
Sound not so difficoult ;D _________________ Oh Yeah!
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equalpyramid
Joined: Oct 09, 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Canada
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Lorenzo

Joined: Nov 09, 2008 Posts: 338 Location: Trieste - Italyjstan
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:35 am Post subject:
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| equalpyramid wrote: | | That would give 400msec of delay. |
400msec is a good delay!
but sorry 400msec is not too much indeed!
I mean not so much for a bentstrument (connect 8 chips is not a joke.
maybe the game isn't worth the... chip )
If a reverb has over 35ms of pre-delay it would be call Echo... and than we can call it delay.
Line-6 DL4 (digital) dalay have 800ms of pre-delay. Some stompbox' have 2 seconds of pre-delay... _________________ Oh Yeah!
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equalpyramid
Joined: Oct 09, 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:56 am Post subject:
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This particular unit was marketed as a reverb unit, but since it used BBD chip, it was always a delay unit. The way these chips work, they are horrible at replicating reverbs. If they make 50ms delays, then it is a chorus, slap-back, flanger type delay...
I just want it to be a proper long delay unit for dub stuff. |
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