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| elektro80 wrote: | | tomte wrote: | | i must say that i liked the kind of soft, nice sounds coming out of that brand. i´m in to kind of techno/house and at a first glance i feel that those modules would suite me fine. when i´ve been watching clips with doepfler-stuff i got the feeling that they are a bit harder, maybe a bit more crazy? but i guess it depends on how you use your gear. i guess you can go a bit crazy with the synthesizer.com gear to. |
It depends on your patching style. I guess the synthesizers.com gear attracts many modular geeks that have previous hands on experience with classic vintage modulars. That will of course to some extent also be reflected in how they patch and play their modulars.
As for crazy, well.. Arrick makes modules that are very smart, kinda understated ( as you will find no knobs marked with "clit disturber" or "anal probing") and the modules play together in an excellent way. You can of course also add in modules from other brands or make your own the electro-music.com DIY way.
Doepfer? I think the general consensus is that any evaluation of the Doepfer products should be on a per module basis. Essentially the Doepfer system is just fine, but outside of a selection of the standard basic utility modules people have strong opinions on which modules makes sense or not.
I think one reason for the success of the Doepfer brand is that it is sold through retailers and there are in fact shops you can visit that have units you can play with. This is probably why the Doepfer brand has become popular with the new european electronic scene.
As for actually acquiring some sort of intuitive understanding of how it is to use an analog modular I think it it will be smart to studying the configuration of one of the mid range synthsizers.com systems and then looking into how such a rig of modules will work out within say the Nord Modular demo. Keep in mind that the Nord Modular demo is a software demo of a hardware/software hybrid synth. The idea is to set up the patch by using a software editor to control a hardware digital synth. You then attach parameters to the knobs on the hardware so you can play your patch. A real analog modular has all the knobs in front of your face so interface wise you get a more immediate and responsive experience. On a larger system you will also tend to set up several independent patches and play all these at the same time. |
there´s a lot for me to learn here, that´s for sure. but the good thing is that i have made the decision and got started. just 10 min ago i learned the difference between trigger and gate, all those things i never took the time to learn, and it gives me some kind of a kick to finally understand those things.
i´m glad for all the advices i´m getting and i´m trying my very best to restrain myself from bying gear already now. although i might go and get myself a clit-disturber right away!
back to my dvd-tutorial, later on i might be able to borrow a minimoog voyager, might be useful to. |
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| elektro80 wrote: | | tomte wrote: | | i must say that i liked the kind of soft, nice sounds coming out of that brand. i´m in to kind of techno/house and at a first glance i feel that those modules would suite me fine. when i´ve been watching clips with doepfler-stuff i got the feeling that they are a bit harder, maybe a bit more crazy? but i guess it depends on how you use your gear. i guess you can go a bit crazy with the synthesizer.com gear to. |
It depends on your patching style. I guess the synthesizers.com gear attracts many modular geeks that have previous hands on experience with classic vintage modulars. That will of course to some extent also be reflected in how they patch and play their modulars.
As for crazy, well.. Arrick makes modules that are very smart, kinda understated ( as you will find no knobs marked with "clit disturber" or "anal probing") and the modules play together in an excellent way. You can of course also add in modules from other brands or make your own the electro-music.com DIY way.
Doepfer? I think the general consensus is that any evaluation of the Doepfer products should be on a per module basis. Essentially the Doepfer system is just fine, but outside of a selection of the standard basic utility modules people have strong opinions on which modules makes sense or not.
I think one reason for the success of the Doepfer brand is that it is sold through retailers and there are in fact shops you can visit that have units you can play with. This is probably why the Doepfer brand has become popular with the new european electronic scene.
As for actually acquiring some sort of intuitive understanding of how it is to use an analog modular I think it it will be smart to studying the configuration of one of the mid range synthsizers.com systems and then looking into how such a rig of modules will work out within say the Nord Modular demo. Keep in mind that the Nord Modular demo is a software demo of a hardware/software hybrid synth. The idea is to set up the patch by using a software editor to control a hardware digital synth. You then attach parameters to the knobs on the hardware so you can play your patch. A real analog modular has all the knobs in front of your face so interface wise you get a more immediate and responsive experience. On a larger system you will also tend to set up several independent patches and play all these at the same time. |
there´s a lot for me to learn here, that´s for sure. but the good thing is that i have made the decision and got started. just 10 min ago i learned the difference between trigger and gate, all those things i never took the time to learn, and it gives me some kind of a kick to finally understand those things.
i´m glad for all the advices i´m getting and i´m trying my very best to restrain myself from bying gear already now. although i might go and get myself a clit-disturber right away!
back to my dvd-tutorial, later on i might be able to borrow a minimoog voyager, might be useful to. |
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so i downloaded the nord modular demo, but when i doubleclick the dmg my mac is telling me that there might be a problem with it that can affect the security of my comp. haven´t seen that before and i´ve opened my fair share of dmg-files.
any of you that installed this? and did you get this alert? |
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I can check. Do you have the URL for that file?
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I tested it. The file is safe. The privs for the disk image is a bit off.. kinda .. that might start an alert.. and the software inside is getting old. 
Anyways.. the dmg is all fine.
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| elektro80 wrote: | I tested it. The file is safe. The privs for the disk image is a bit off.. kinda .. that might start an alert.. and the software inside is getting old.
Anyways.. the dmg is all fine. |
thanks man! much appriciated! |
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| Dougster wrote: | If you like the Nord demo software, you might check out a couple other software tools...
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thanks for all the links, i´ll check them out!
actually i didn´t like the nord demo so much but i think it might have been the graphic interface that put me off a bit. what i like with the moog modular V is the hot looks of course, but also the fact that there was some tutorials around and that i could use it as a rtas-plug.
but i don´t know, maybe the nord demo is a better way to learn, is more like the real thing when it comes to new modules? i´m gonna give it another shot on monday. |
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| tomte wrote: | | actually i didn´t like the nord demo so much but i think it might have been the graphic interface that put me off a bit. what i like with the moog modular V is the hot looks of course, but also the fact that there was some tutorials around and that i could use it as a rtas-plug. |
That's another black hole of possibilities, those plugins. You know about KVR, right? http://www.kvraudio.com/
As for tutorials, there are some nice tutorials that use the Nord Modular. For example:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhordijk/G2Pages/
http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/nordmodularbook/nm_book_toc.html
http://electro-music.com/pm_tutorial/
| Quote: | | but i don´t know, maybe the nord demo is a better way to learn, is more like the real thing when it comes to new modules? i´m gonna give it another shot on monday. |
I think the Nord demo is excellent for learning. When you figure it all out, pretty much every synth has some kind of building blocks that you put together into a sound. It doesn't matter whether it's hardware or software, it's still an oscillator or a filter, etc. The "quality" of the sound will change, depending upon the design, but the basic idea is the same...
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| Dougster wrote: | | tomte wrote: | | actually i didn´t like the nord demo so much but i think it might have been the graphic interface that put me off a bit. what i like with the moog modular V is the hot looks of course, but also the fact that there was some tutorials around and that i could use it as a rtas-plug. |
That's another black hole of possibilities, those plugins. You know about KVR, right? http://www.kvraudio.com/
As for tutorials, there are some nice tutorials that use the Nord Modular. For example:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhordijk/G2Pages/
http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/nordmodularbook/nm_book_toc.html
http://electro-music.com/pm_tutorial/
| Quote: | | but i don´t know, maybe the nord demo is a better way to learn, is more like the real thing when it comes to new modules? i´m gonna give it another shot on monday. |
I think the Nord demo is excellent for learning. When you figure it all out, pretty much every synth has some kind of building blocks that you put together into a sound. It doesn't matter whether it's hardware or software, it's still an oscillator or a filter, etc. The "quality" of the sound will change, depending upon the design, but the basic idea is the same... |
yeah, i hope it will go easier next week, maybe with the help of the tutorials, thanks! i´ll try to stay concentrated and focused. this is school all over again! |
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