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g2ools-1.5 nm2g2 and dx2g2 converters
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

where are al the vocoders, i am trying to make a battlestar/beastyboys vocoder so i good use some insperation i gues, Razz
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hi to all
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its not working on win 7 ... help gyus ... is it realy working on other win ???
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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its not working on win 7 ... help gyus ... is it realy working on other win ???
Rolling Eyes


WHat do you mean it's not working?
What kind of error do you get?
Take a screenshot & attatch it to your post.

Have you installed Python?
www.python.org

Python2.6.x should work, as should 2.7.1

You need to add C:\Pythonxx to your path variable in control panel after running the Python installer. (where xx is the same version number that you installed, but without the decimal point

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Guys,

I have a question concearning the DX2G2 converted Patches.
I converted several DX7 Patches I found on the net.
So far so good.
But now I'm wondering where the Portamento function in the G2 Patches is. Maybe someone could explain that to me. I imagined it to be like on any other Synth I know i.e. the old Rolands etc. but I cannot find where to set the glide time that the sound slides from one note to the next.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Check Mate wrote:
Hi Guys,

I have a question concearning the DX2G2 converted Patches.
I converted several DX7 Patches I found on the net.
So far so good.
But now I'm wondering where the Portamento function in the G2 Patches is. Maybe someone could explain that to me. I imagined it to be like on any other Synth I know i.e. the old Rolands etc. but I cannot find where to set the glide time that the sound slides from one note to the next.

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It is in the editor patch settings dialog, next to the arpeggio controls.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Ian,
I knew about the "on-board function" of the G2. I just thought there is an extra portamento function bulid with modules in the G2 DX- Patches.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There is a glide module in there but looks like it just adds a 9.3ms glide to the S+H waveform. You could add another but the base patch is at 50% Mem in the VA so your going to cut your max poly voice count.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for your help Ian! I'll try this then.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have installed Phyton and was using CMD console but only get "failed patches".
Any ideas?

Win 7 32

Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Rokatansky wrote:
I have installed Phyton and was using CMD console but only get "failed patches".
Any ideas?

Win 7 32

Thanks in advance


What exactly do you mean by "failed patches"?

Are any error messages displayed?
Can you post some screenshots?

Which version of Python do you have installed?
Open a command prompt,
type python, press enter

Post the python version displayed

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Command prompt says so:
"Failed patches:nm2g2*.pch" (all files inside the g2tools folder)
"failed patches:Juno.pch" (single patch insode g2tools folder)
Typing "python" or "Python" inside cmd give me this:
"python is not recognized as an internal or external command"

Running the IDLE Python GUI:

"Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<pyshell>", line 1, in <module>
nm2g2.exe
NameError: name 'nm2g2' is not defined
>>> "

Python 2.7.3
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Rokatansky wrote:
Command prompt says so:
"Failed patches:nm2g2*.pch" (all files inside the g2tools folder)
"failed patches:Juno.pch" (single patch insode g2tools folder)
Typing "python" or "Python" inside cmd give me this:
"python is not recognized as an internal or external command"

Running the IDLE Python GUI:

"Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<pyshell>", line 1, in <module>
nm2g2.exe
NameError: name 'nm2g2' is not defined
>>> "

Python 2.7.3



The stupid website didn't notify me of this reply, even though that option is checked. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. Don't know why.

Ok, so it's not in your path.

Would you do me a favor?

We need to add the python path to your system path
Type

which python

at a command prompt, paste your results here

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Got it working now.

Just downloaded the G2oolsGUI,re-installed and followed the detailed info there and everything is fine now.
I used this command :"nm2g2 -r Dirname"

Thanks for your support

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Rokatansky wrote:
Got it working now.

Just downloaded the G2oolsGUI,re-installed and followed the detailed info there and everything is fine now.
I used this command :"nm2g2 -r Dirname"

Thanks for your support

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I have used the same command and out of 900 patches only 400 were converted any info how i can convert the others and why would i get that error?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

blisargon demogorgon wrote:
Rokatansky wrote:
Got it working now.

Just downloaded the G2oolsGUI,re-installed and followed the detailed info there and everything is fine now.
I used this command :"nm2g2 -r Dirname"

Thanks for your support

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I have used the same command and out of 900 patches only 400 were converted any info how i can convert the others and why would i get that error?


Try converting just one of the patches that failed the conversion.
I believe a log file may be generated, but I don't remember where it is or what the name would be.

Look for files with .log extension and report your findings.
It's been a long time since I've used these tools.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

cappy2112 wrote:
blisargon demogorgon wrote:
Rokatansky wrote:
Got it working now.

Just downloaded the G2oolsGUI,re-installed and followed the detailed info there and everything is fine now.
I used this command :"nm2g2 -r Dirname"

Thanks for your support

Regards



I have used the same command and out of 900 patches only 400 were converted any info how i can convert the others and why would i get that error?


Try converting just one of the patches that failed the conversion.
I believe a log file may be generated, but I don't remember where it is or what the name would be.

Look for files with .log extension and report your findings.
It's been a long time since I've used these tools.


Just tried and i do it trough CMD.EXE

It gives me message Failed patches: FM Lead.pch

Where can i see the detailed error?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Just tried and i do it trough CMD.EXE

It gives me message Failed patches: FM Lead.pch

Where can i see the detailed error?


Look for files with .log extension and report your findings.
It's been a long time since I've used these tools.

We do know the converter has some limitations, although
I don't know exactly what they are. It won't work with every patch.

Are these patches you've created?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:09 pm    Post subject: dx7 conversion
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Hi there,
I know a bit of python but don't understand much about the G2X patches.
I have a few FM patches on my G2X.
I was thinking of trying to convert them back to sysex
It would be a big job to try and figure out all the code in reverse.
Anyone else looking for the same thing?
Sean
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Guys hi, I'm also trying to convert some dx banks and i'm getting the same error as above (index out of range) in some of them. Anyone knows how to fix this or how this was fixed in the first message (...11 years ago!)?

if the error happens on the first patch (for example) of the sysex file, I can manually replace that with another patch from the same sysex file and it will convert. Therefore...alternatively, is there a way to split/extract the 32 patches per sysex file so that they can be converted one by one and reduce the number of errors?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Melien wrote:
Guys hi, I'm also trying to convert some dx banks and i'm getting the same error as above (index out of range) in some of them. Anyone knows how to fix this or how this was fixed in the first message (...11 years ago!)?

?


I’ve found why two of the errors are happening, but since I don’t know the dx7 patch architecture, I can’t fix the program.

One of the two IndexErrors I’ve found is caused by this code, which doesn’t make sense to me.

lfop.Rate.variations[i] = dxtable.lfo[dxpatch.lfo.Rate][1]

Each entry into the lfo table is defined as [lforang, lforate, lfomod,lfoattack]
So using the lforate to index into the table doesn’t make sense.

Dxtable.lfo is a table that is 100 elements long.
dxpatch.lfo.Rate at the point of failure is 127.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Does not work for me. Win 11. Tried both the exe and the Python (after installing Python). I have zero clue where to place files so I tried every possibility. All ever get is a possibly DOS looking screen that appears and dissappears within 1 one hundredth of a second.

Looking for a clue.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

John_W_Thompson wrote:
Does not work for me. Win 11. Tried both the exe and the Python (after installing Python). I have zero clue where to place files so I tried every possibility. All ever get is a possibly DOS looking screen that appears and dissappears within 1 one hundredth of a second.

Looking for a clue.


G200ls was written with python 2, which is now obsolete and not supported.
Python 3 is what is en vogue and these tools will need to be modified to run with Python 3

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

cappy2112 wrote:
j wrote:
I have windows xp(sp2) and can not figure out how to use this.
Do i need python installed for it to work? Could you please tell me exactly how to install the converter and use it? I do not know anything about python or programming.
Do the files have to be placed into the windows folder or something?
I double clicked the exe file and a black box(command line?) temporarily pops up and disapears , but nothing else seems to happen.


Joerg?

Currently, you need to open a cmd prompt (aka DOS BOX) in the directory where the project is installed.
You don't need python installed nor have to know about any programming issues to use it.

The patches you want to convert need to be in the directory where you installed the converter.

In the cmd prompt window, type nm2g2 patchname.pch2
Substitute patchname.pch2 with the name of the patch you want to convert, or if you have a directory full of patches type,

nm2g2 *.pch2

A GUI version is in the works to simplify this, so you will be able to double click on a icon. This will be coming in the future.


It works if you remove the 2 after the nm2g2 *.pch2 so it says nm2g2 *.pch. Hope you know how to open a command prompt?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

cappy2112 wrote:
John_W_Thompson wrote:
Does not work for me. Win 11. Tried both the exe and the Python (after installing Python). I have zero clue where to place files so I tried every possibility. All ever get is a possibly DOS looking screen that appears and dissappears within 1 one hundredth of a second.

Looking for a clue.


G200ls was written with python 2, which is now obsolete and not supported.
Python 3 is what is en vogue and these tools will need to be modified to run with Python 3


Thank you for the information.
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