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XpanderXT

Joined: Oct 22, 2007 Posts: 137 Location: the flat universe
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject:
diversity? I thought we were diverse. |
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I think that the people I have met who are involved in electro-music are extremly diverse and don't hold to any real stereotype like you might find in metal, emo, country, classical, goth, etc.
I have met old, young, male, female, fat, skinny, spiritual, non-spiritual, right wing, left wing, trendy, trendless, leaders, follows, straight, gay, bi, etc.
I don't think that any one group has a struggle per say but that we all as a music genre have a struggle getting our music out there in a way for the mainstream listener to hear and notice.
My classification:
Fat, bald, middle aged, male, trendless, Christian, non-politically active, mildly environmental, wind controller playing synth dork who likes analog but likes digital synthesis as well. I ride motorcycles as well but not while making music.....yet. |
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EdisonRex
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Joined: Mar 07, 2007 Posts: 4570 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject:
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I ride motorcycles as well but not while making music.....yet.
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You should work on that. I'm sure the throttle and clutch can be adapted.  _________________ Garret: It's so retro.
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seraph
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Joined: Jun 21, 2003 Posts: 12222 Location: Firenze, Italy
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject:
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Quote: | Genre of softcore punk music that integrates unenthusiastic melodramatic 17 year olds who dont smile, high pitched overwrought lyrics and inaudible guitar rifts with tight wool sweaters, tighter jeans, itchy scarfs (even in the summer), ripped chucks with favorite bands signature, black square rimmed glasses, and ebony greasy unwashed hair that is required to cover at least 3/5 ths of the face at an angle. |
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is that so
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Quote: | The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not mov'd with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils; the motions of his spirit are dull as night and his affections dark as Erebus: Let no such man be trusted. - W. Shakespeare |
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Nth L0gik

Joined: Jul 07, 2007 Posts: 71 Location: near DC,USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:21 pm Post subject:
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speaking of diversification ? well i'm sure most (if not all) of the members of this forum can produce music ,.... i dont think they would be here otherwise. though, there are some members possibly just checking the forum out on a read by page basis, theres nothing wrong with that at all,..... but you know i'm wondering just what it take to build/establish a decent standing in this forum?
diversity...? hmmm = http://nthlogikmedia.ej.am/discog.html
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bbinkovitz

Joined: Jun 12, 2006 Posts: 338 Location: central ohio
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject:
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The OP in this thread is very telling. In fact, the title is exactly the sentiment that drives me up the wall and made me suggest starting this forum --- the notion that diversity is this place that we've already arrived at, and that the only reason you could possibly be interested in talking about it, is if you think we're not diverse enough and you want someone to fix it for you.
Yes, we're diverse. Is that a good reason NOT to have a forum about it? _________________ solo: http://www.myspace.com/skippyvodka
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XpanderXT

Joined: Oct 22, 2007 Posts: 137 Location: the flat universe
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject:
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I'm not against a forum for it.
I just think we are already a diverse group of people so having a forum for diversity in electro-music doesn't describe it too well.
Maybe a better forum name that would better identify the concept would be
"Specificity in electro-music" if it supposed to be about discussing specific groups within our diverse community?
Just an idea. |
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Kassen
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Joined: Jul 06, 2004 Posts: 7678 Location: The Hague, NL
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:52 am Post subject:
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bbinkovitz wrote: | The OP in this thread is very telling. In fact, the title is exactly the sentiment that drives me up the wall and made me suggest starting this forum --- the notion that diversity is this place that we've already arrived at, and that the only reason you could possibly be interested in talking about it, is if you think we're not diverse enough and you want someone to fix it for you.
Yes, we're diverse. Is that a good reason NOT to have a forum about it? |
By this reasoning we also need sections on hair-grooming and walking since most of us have hair and walk.
I'm also getting the impression "diversity" is treated from a perspective of being "different" compared to a completely arbitrary and largely imaginary sense of "normality". I still believe that treating "diversity" in this way, by literally creating a *section* for it, reinforces this cultural construct, however well intended.
As I said before; women aren't a "minority", they in fact outnumber men significantly, except maybe in China and though it may sound Latin nobody in ancient Rome would have the slightest idea what we mean by "hetro-sexual". _________________ Kassen |
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bbinkovitz

Joined: Jun 12, 2006 Posts: 338 Location: central ohio
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:02 am Post subject:
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I understand where you're coming from, but ignoring it won't make it go away.
BTW I think diversity (of nationality, gender, cultural conditions) is ironically responsible for a lot of the disagreements about diversity. To those living in very tolerant and accepting societies, or those of the "dominant" persuasion, be it sexual, racial, or whatever, it might seem like those of us who consider this a vital discussion are in fact beating a dead horse. We must remember that whether or not the horse is dead is, itself, a matter of perspective.
I understand those who say "I don't see any need for me to discuss this" but to extrapolate that into "and therefore you must be wasting your time by discussing it" is to make a big error. _________________ solo: http://www.myspace.com/skippyvodka
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chuckbeginner
Joined: May 26, 2008 Posts: 29 Location: Asheville NC
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Is the horse actually Schrodinger's Cat? |
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The Carrot Factory

Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Posts: 6 Location: Toronto, ON (CAN)
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:26 am Post subject:
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You could merge this with "Introduce..." and rename the hybrid "Identity". |
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bbinkovitz

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Danno Gee Ray
Joined: Sep 25, 2005 Posts: 1346 Location: Telford, PA USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject:
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To twist a phrase from a movie I enjoyed...
Diversity is as diversity does.
That we manage to come together year after year in peace and instruct each other is a start.
Gene had it right.
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A E J O T Z

Joined: Aug 14, 2011 Posts: 423 Location: Griffith, Indiana, USA
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I am a distinct individual. I enjoy other people who are distinct individuals. I don't enjoy people who surrender their individuality to identify with symbolic groups.
I am not a black ant or a red ant. I am not a color or a religion or a sub-culture. I am me.
The music I make is unique. I love synthesizers because I can play around with buttons and knobs and find new sounds that move me.
P.S. Those of you who think you are members of groups are also distinct individuals, whether you like it or not. |
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Blue Hell
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capitan mission

Joined: Mar 27, 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Patagonia, Argentina
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:20 pm Post subject:
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Hello!
Well, Im intrigued about this section, I dont understand it completely, but Im not against it. And I dont have any right to be against it, im a noob here.
electro-music is indeed very diverse, as the OP wrote.
We have university geeks making pure data patches a whole year, kids making 4x4 techno, not very young guys making 4x4 techno : ), modular lovers connecting cables in a endless free form jam, people doing field recordings... you know.
People from 10 to 100 years old, anarchists, nazis, hippies, lefties, gays, lesbians, and we, the normal people who give a shit about that hahahahaha. (just a joke).
saludos! _________________ “You may fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time"
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