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TC11 Patching
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Banjo



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:20 pm    Post subject: TC11 Patching Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Just wanted to open a discussion about creating and editing patches. My first attempts at creating a patch was to turn off all modules except the minimum modules needed to create a sound. The next step was to set the parameters as neutral as possible and then save the patch as a raw template. I then started experimenting from there. This worked ok until I had time to really play some of the presets for an extended period of time.

Now I am duplicating the presets that I find the most interesting and promising into the user bank for future editing. What I am now finding, is that the user bank is going to become filled with a hodgepodge of patches that will quickly become cumbersome to find a particular patch.

I will probably incorporate version numbers to patches that are works in progress, along with letters to differentiate between the behavior of the touchpad. Perhaps as time goes on, multiple custom user banks can be added to the program.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Moved this to the new TC-11 sub forum.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: TC11 Patching Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Banjo wrote:
Perhaps as time goes on, multiple custom user banks can be added to the program.

This is an interesting idea. I had a 'search' function in mind to help out users with large patch banks, but there are other ways that might work well. Perhaps tagging patches, and then allowing for a filtered User Patches list (i.e. - filtering to a particular tag would only show the patches matching that tag).
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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filtering to a particular tag would only show the patches matching that tag


That sounds like a good idea. A bit of colour coding wouldn't go amiss either? Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Tags could work very well. However, I would suggest that the user should have the ability to create the names for the tags. Since the way one plays this app, and the variety of ways that each patch makes sound, the traditional tags found in soft synths may not apply with this app.

If the user bank approach would work better, it may be advantageous to be able to load and save them with say 20 patches in each?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Banjo wrote:
Tags could work very well. However, I would suggest that the user should have the ability to create the names for the tags. Since the way one plays this app, and the variety of ways that each patch makes sound, the traditional tags found in soft synths may not apply with this app.

This might be possible. Have you used any Native Instruments apps? They have a fairly comprehensive tagging system that covers a huge range of styles and genres.

However, it would also be nice to save a group of unrelated patches together. Say you have a concert where you want quick access to the 9 patches you'll use throughout the evening. A custom 'folder' is what you'd want then.

I've got a lot to consider for the patch upgrades I'm looking at, but I like hearing your ideas. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Many of the 'old' hardware synths allowed for 1 or more program lists for the purpose of live playing. It was typically just a list that indexed into the full list of presets available, almost like pointing into a database.

It also typically allowed for MIDI Program Change messages to step through a given list, vs. addressing the complete program list.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Native Instruments tagging system is good, but I can not remember if one can custom name the catagories and tag names. If the TC11 uses the tagging system, what kind of names would you give the tags, when so much is dependant on on how the patches are played rather than the type of sound that is produced. For that reason is why I would lean towards custom loadable patch banks. Not having any experience in creating apps, I have no idea how feasable that would be for the ipad. Whatever the solution is, I'm sure it will be a good one.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have some secondary reasons to go with standardized patch tags, but I do agree that some of them will have to be TC-11 performance oriented. Patch folders might then be a separate feature.
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