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Locate an 8-bit R/2R ladder?
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 4:03 pm    Post subject: Locate an 8-bit R/2R ladder? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I found this 6-bit R/2R ladder by Murata, and they make an 8-bit version but Mouser doesn't carry it. Anyone know where I could find something like this?

For my application, I'd rather not use a parallel DAC. If I can't find an 8-bit ladder I will probably just hand-wire a less precise one with discrete resistors.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'd just suggest you make your own from resistors, I doubt it will be much less accurate and besides, you can get something like 0.1% tolerance resistors inexpensively, surely that's accurate enough?
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

JingleJoe wrote:
I'd just suggest you make your own from resistors, I doubt it will be much less accurate and besides, you can get something like 0.1% tolerance resistors inexpensively, surely that's accurate enough?

That's my backup plan, if I can't find a 10-pin SIP.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The DAC08 is still available, though it's a DIP not a SIP. It's also available in several SMD (FWIW). It's "parallel" in the same sense that an R2R is parallel - that is, it's not a serial DAC. It needs the 8 wires for the 8 bits you would supply to an R2R. The DAC08 does not contain a set of flipflops, just the analog circuitry required.
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

JovianPyx wrote:
The DAC08 is still available, though it's a DIP not a SIP. It's also available in several SMD (FWIW). It's "parallel" in the same sense that an R2R is parallel - that is, it's not a serial DAC. It needs the 8 wires for the 8 bits you would supply to an R2R. The DAC08 does not contain a set of flipflops, just the analog circuitry required.

This looks like a good suggestion, thanks! I'll read up. I had looked at a couple of parallel 8-bit DACs, but the ones I looked at required a clock signal and so weren't exactly similar to an R/2R. The DAC08 eschews the clock requirement, although it looks like it does add a few passive components for the biasing network. I'll have to order a couple and try it out.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'll second the motion for hand rolled R/2R networks. Everyone of them has it's own unique sound. A bit of resistor testing never hurt anyone!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Locate an 8-bit R/2R ladder? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Pretty sure this will do the job: Bourns Part # 4116R-R2R-104. I found it at Direct Components:

http://www.directics.com/search.html
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 3:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Locate an 8-bit R/2R ladder? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

funkomatic wrote:
Pretty sure this will do the job: Bourns Part # 4116R-R2R-104. I found it at Direct Components:

http://www.directics.com/search.html

Thanks for finding that. I found the Bourns datasheet. It looks like "4116R-3-R1/R2" is the relevant diagram? A little confusing, almost like two ladders connected overlapping? But it does seem like you can wire an 8-bit DAC out of it.

That vendor seems to really want a salesman to call you which doesn't give me much hope for a onesy-twosy order.
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