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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Usually shorter, but can take longer too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

one thing, have you updated the firmware on the Konnekt48 at all?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Think so, I got the latest version when I set up the Kyma stuff a couple of months ago. After that I did not touch it, and used the settings for it as recommended by Symbolic Sound (even when that means it's VU meters dont work anymore Evil or Very Mad ).
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

VU meters don't work, thats strange isn't it?

Well we are up to 10:30 here now with no problem.

I just looked back at my emails to see when I had the firewire problems and it was October 2009, after a few rounds of debug logs with Symbolic they seemed to sort it out.

What sort of mac are you using?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

macbook pro on osx 10.5.8

And them VU meters, well that seems to be part of the recommended settings, dunno ...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I am testing on a MacPro on 10.8 so its not really like for like I suppose.

Coming up to 12 hours now, I will run it till I go to bed then I will have to turn it off as it is in the bedroom and i cannot stand the fan noise!

What is the longest you have had it going on the Konnekt48?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

on that sound .. maybe a day .. not sure.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ah, Ok. I thought it went quicker, so this test is not going to be up to much then!

I will leave it running overnight as well....
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oh dear, I wouldn't want you to sleep on the couch tho Shocked Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Let's see how long I can take it!

One of the fans whistles in a very annoying manner.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've started it here again too with that tc thingie .. 48 minutes now it sez
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Jan,

Sorry I had to turn it off last night, I couldn't get to sleep. It managed 17 hours before I killed it.

At the weekend I am moving a load of stuff around ( decorating Sad ), I will unrack the K48 and the pacarana and connect it to the laptop somewhere else and leave it running for longer.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

heh, quite understandable.

Meanwhile it stopped working here again, this time after 16:03:19 and this time it got stuck repeating one sound no message or nothing, it just stopped.

The pacarana is still responding to its front panel. Trying a DSP restart ... nothing .. trying again ... cursor is a bit nervous but nothing else happens .. quitting Kyma, it won't stop .. force quiting Kyma and starting it ... starting patch again .. it runs.

Every time it is a new surprise when it stops and how it stops Crying or Very sad

On the USB interface it will stop too, it just takes a bit longer usually.

This is so fokking frustrating and disappointing.

Anyway, sending in another debug log.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If you get FireWire errors using the USB interface it must be the connection between the pacarana and the laptop?

I take it you gave tried different leads?

Can you introduce the error by moving the lead around, I know that can throw mine.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes I've tried different wires ... but I do not just get firewire errors (as illustrated in my previous post where I did not get any error at all but just a hangup of Kyma (apparently, as I did not restart the pacarana this time but had to force quit Kyma), but also the pacarana can crash in such a way for instance that its front panel is not operative anymore and I need to pull the power plug from it).

Anyay, I've just set up the thing with the TC again, for which I tried different wires too.

And as the FW800 connectors are pretty lousy I even tied them up a bit so they won't wiggle out by them selves.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So there seems to be no such thing as "the error".
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Mmmmm.

I'll set mine up to run over the weekend and see how it goes.

Most people probably don't run them for a prolonged time.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ran for 5 hours and a bit here now ... time for sleep .. will see tomorrow ... the debug dump i sent to symbolic sound indicated that the pacarana had been running for a minute and a bit when i made the dump .. but I did not restart it Shocked

Anyways, time to sleep a bit.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Pulled the audio i/f pulled the ethernet cable .. disabled wifi on the mac and stopped all needless apps there, then started the patch again on the silent device ... 3:28:00 now and still running ...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Jan,

It is all set up and working....

Lets see how long it goes

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Has been running here now for 68 hours and a bit (with all stuff pulled as described above) ... starting to go somewhere ... but I've had it run for 70 hours before (with USB audio I/F) which is just not long enough for me ... anyway, I'll keep it running for a bit more.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So as long as you don't want any audio then it sounds like you are fine, I don't know what your complaining about Wink
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All nice and quiet now, yeah Cool Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I haven't read all of this thread, but I think Blue Hell's music is in it's own space; music that takes much longer than a typical song, or even a symphony or CD. Noodles are designed to play forever, like the sound of the sea shore or Victoria Falls. That's a concept that most people don't really appreciate. So, it's not so strange that an instrument that stops playing after a few days is problematic.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Especially so as the system supports timing as slow as two years ;-)
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