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altern8
Joined: May 25, 2012 Posts: 30 Location: Alabama
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ashleym
Joined: Aug 20, 2009 Posts: 181 Location: uk
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:27 am Post subject:
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Surely you can just use it as a replacement envelope and wire it into the ARG of the Noise Toaster? I see a trigger switch on the left hand side of the circuit.
I am not great circuit reader so on first glance I cant tell if the input of the Delptronics is for a trigger input or if you put the signal in there and the envelope side of the circuit changes if amplitude of the signal???? _________________ http://soundcloud.com/for-mash-get-ash |
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altern8
Joined: May 25, 2012 Posts: 30 Location: Alabama
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ashleym
Joined: Aug 20, 2009 Posts: 181 Location: uk
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:51 am Post subject:
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Looking at the circuit a bit more you have a couple of options. With these circuits you have 2 VCAs and a couple of ARs. Perhaps you could hard wire the MFOS AR to the ARG input of the filter? Then you could use the Delptronics VCA/AR as a VCA/AR and bypass the MFOS VCA. Connect the output of the Toaster U2-A, pin 1 after the feedback loop but before the drain of Q7 into the input of the Delptronic VCA/AR.
You could also put a switch into both VCAs and a filter allowing you to choose the Delptonics AR or the MFOS AR to modulate the filter and/or amplifier. _________________ http://soundcloud.com/for-mash-get-ash |
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altern8
Joined: May 25, 2012 Posts: 30 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:58 pm Post subject:
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ashleym wrote: | Looking at the circuit a bit more you have a couple of options. With these circuits you have 2 VCAs and a couple of ARs. Perhaps you could hard wire the MFOS AR to the ARG input of the filter? |
I could, but what I want to do is make the Delptronics AR play with the the MFOS VCF/VCA in the exact same way as the Noise Toaster AR does -- ie: with a single connection to the VCA and Modulation Source switches.
Frankly I don't know how to identify the VCA section of the Delp circuit in the first place. That's how wet behind the ears I am!
ashleym wrote: | Then you could use the Delptronics VCA/AR as a VCA/AR and bypass the MFOS VCA. Connect the output of the Toaster U2-A, pin 1 after the feedback loop but before the drain of Q7 into the input of the Delptronic VCA/AR. |
Part of my plan anyway -- an additional Delptronics AR/VCA that I can patch into. Pretty much unaltered from this diagram.
ashleym wrote: | You could also put a switch into both VCAs and a filter allowing you to choose the Delptonics AR or the MFOS AR to modulate the filter and/or amplifier. |
I'd be happy just to know how I can make the Delp AR modulate the MFOS VCF the same way the MFOS AR does -- with one connection out to the MFOS VCF and VCA switches -- and no signal input on the Delp AR.
Not like there's a problem with the MFOS AR. I'm just saving the remaining stages of the LM324 for an LFO and a stereo bus while using one 40106 to create two Delp AR modules, one patchable and one to use with the VCF in the manner of the Noise Toaster. _________________ Noise is for heroes! |
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El Mop
Joined: Aug 20, 2012 Posts: 56 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject:
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I´m not sure but I think replacing S6 with a 3-way-switch where you connect LFO and the Noise-Toaster-AR as before and the Delptronic-AR-Output to the "new" pole.
You can use the replaced switch from S6 and connect it to "ARG" (below R41) and the outputs of both AR-Envelopes, so you can switch between the Noise Toasters and the Delptronics Envelope.
Still not sure if I got what you want to do, but maybe this was a bit helpful. |
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altern8
Joined: May 25, 2012 Posts: 30 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:47 pm Post subject:
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A friend suggested that I just eliminate everything to the right of Q4 on the Delp AR (eliminating it's input/output) and connecting that point to the ARG points on the Toaster-style VCF and VCA.
All I'm trying to do is use the Delp AR with this instead of the original one. _________________ Noise is for heroes! |
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El Mop
Joined: Aug 20, 2012 Posts: 56 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:51 pm Post subject:
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For that connect the output of the Delptronic-AR to "ARG". |
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altern8
Joined: May 25, 2012 Posts: 30 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:24 pm Post subject:
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altern8 wrote: | A friend suggested that I just eliminate everything to the right of Q4 on the Delp AR (eliminating it's input/output) and connecting that point to the ARG points on the Toaster-style VCF and VCA. |
That did it! WOO HOO! _________________ Noise is for heroes! |
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