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Dougster
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| djs wrote: | | Hi Doug- any luck getting the forum back online? I'm guessing not.. |
Haven't really tried recently. I've had a couple offers of help, so I'll work something out. Any announcements about it will be published on the web site.
| Quote: | | Also- did the pcbs arrive for batch 3? Given your comments above, I would assume so, but just checking. If so, did they buil ok? |
Yes, but I haven't actually built one of the production boards yet. I only made a couple minor changes from the last prototype, and I can tell visually that they were put on the new boards. I do want to build one of the production boards and take proper pictures as I go. That may not happen until after Christmas. (I have the week off between Christmas and New Year's day.)
Regards,
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rosch
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:52 pm Post subject:
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hey Doug, am i on the list for batch 4?
if not please put me down for 1
cheers |
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Dougster
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:06 pm Post subject:
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| rosch wrote: | hey Doug, am i on the list for batch 4?
if not please put me down for 1
cheers |
OK, I'll make sure you are on the list. 
Regards,
Doug
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rosch
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:53 pm Post subject:
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| cool, thanks! |
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Spotta
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Dougster
Joined: Sep 20, 2005
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Good price! I'll check to see if they'll fit...
EDIT: Hmm, it's pretty close, but I'm not sure. The PCB and the hole spacings are the same, BUT the CrystalFontz display is offset and the Tayda looks like it is centered on the PCB. Now, the Tayda bezel is 1mm narrower, so all is not lost yet. I'm going to measure the actual hole in the MB-808 PCB and see if there is enough slop to fit the Tayda.
I won't be able to do that until next weekend though, I'm on a business trip in Maryland until December 8.
Also, I've never used an ST7066 before, but I just read that it's HD44780 compatible.
Stay tuned, I'm going to order one of the Tayda displays to find out for sure if it works...
Regards,
Doug
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effegee
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:37 pm Post subject:
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| I bought one of the orange backlit LCDs on eBay for $5.95 USD. I printed out the LCD portion of Doug's PCB (actual size). The mounting holes match, but the PCB window is about 1mm too narrow for the LCD. It would be easy to widen it a little (using a file?) for a good fit. |
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Spotta
Joined: Apr 24, 2010
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Location: London UK
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:39 pm Post subject:
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| Dougster wrote: | | Stay tuned, I'm going to order one of the Tayda displays to find out for sure if it works... |
Cheers Doug, fingers crossed.
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infindebula
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject:
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| Dougster wrote: | | I do want to build one of the production boards and take proper pictures as I go. That may not happen until after Christmas. (I have the week off between Christmas and New Year's day.) |
Do you plan to ship batch 3 kits before you build one? |
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Dougster
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| infindebula wrote: | | Do you plan to ship batch 3 kits before you build one? |
Well, if you're asking whether I have tested the batch 3 boards, I have built a prototype board, and there are almost no changes between the prototype and the production boards. I really only want to build one to properly document the process. I don't think anyone wants to wait for me to build another board before I ship...
Regards,
Doug
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infindebula
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Agreed! 
I know I can't speak for everyone, but I would rather work around board problems than wait. |
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Spotta
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:26 am Post subject:
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| infindebula wrote: | Agreed!
I know I can't speak for everyone, but I would rather work around board problems than wait. |
yep 
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BIAM
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schmidtc
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:44 am Post subject:
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Anyone in batch 3 received an invoice for the final payment?
I think it was more than 5 years ago that I added my name to the waiting list and 3 years ago that I sent in my deposit. It's very exciting to see this coming to fruition. |
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Spotta
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| schmidtc wrote: | Anyone in batch 3 received an invoice for the final payment?
I think it was more than 5 years ago that I added my name to the waiting list and 3 years ago that I sent in my deposit. It's very exciting to see this coming to fruition. |
Same. It can't be much longer can it.....?
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MK
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Before I pay a second $100 deposit to Doug I want to be 100% sure if I (and more than 100 others) are not dealing with a fraudster. Before Doug collects another $10.000 from us all I would suggest that the following steps are taken:
-Communication will be improved.
-Pictures of the new PCB's are published.
-New pictures of all components are published.
-The new PCB will be tested on functionality, these test will also be performed by independent forum members.
-Independent forum members confirm that 100 kits are waiting to be delivered.
To speed up the process I would suggest Doug to stop the signing up for batch four and focus on batch three instead. |
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BIAM
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Dougster
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| MK wrote: | | Before I pay a second $100 deposit to Doug I want to be 100% sure if I (and more than 100 others) are not dealing with a fraudster. |
Sigh.
I have specifically said that I will never take deposits again.
I have had an incredible number of requests for kits, but because of posts like this, MK, I just don't want to make any more. (Refer to sub-title of thread.) There are a lot of nice people out there, so I figured I'd make one last batch, partly to let that group have a chance at getting a kit, and partly because I have about 200 more sets of the colored E-Switches that I'd like to sell to see if I can get back the $10,000+ I invested in them. Other than closing the signup list and sending out confirmation emails, I will not start on batch four until all kits from batch three are shipped. (To be pedantic, I already have the E-Switches, the potentiometers, transistors, etc, required for batch four, so I suppose in that sense, they're all intermingled.)
FWIW, I had three business trips in November and December, plus my daughter got ejected from Germany because she didn't take care of the paperwork to get her student visa. My wife and I tried to help with conference calls and even fedexing documents, but in the end, she lost her chance to stay and study. Of course, she didn't manage her money properly, so we had to make arrangements to get her home (at least she got to spend Christmas with us) and now, today, we are packing up a U-Haul trailer and driving her to Flagstaff. I'm sorry, I just blew my available time today replying to this, so I'll have to deal with email replies and web site stuff after we get back.
Regards,
Doug
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BIAM
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infindebula
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Believe me Doug, I know that life at times can deliver the worst, most ill-timed crap. Even though I'm going through a (long overdue) separation right now, I don't think I've had to deal with a fraction of what you've had to endure over the past few years.
But for as much as these big things suck up our free time, the biggest issue people have had with you through this whole thing is the lack of communication. You've said here and elsewhere that you don't want to have to be checking forums all over the internet to find out when somebody is upset, but it seems everybody (including me) also has a story of trying to email you without getting any response.
Every delay encountered with this kit is completely forgivable! But eight-oh-eight.org keeps going stale for weeks or months (it still says you're waiting on boxes), and the problem just festers in forums like this.
I think you should consider more regular updates - spend five minutes, weekly, even if it's to say you couldn't get to this project over the past week. Maybe updating eight-oh-eight is too labour intensive, and you could be using a blog instead ... nowadays they're easy to update even from your phone.
In any case, I'm sorry to hear things didn't work out in Germany for your daughter, and I hope you get back safely from Flagstaff. Have a happier new year! |
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andrewF
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:49 am Post subject:
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no point in asking for updates anymore
from 808.org
As of December 28, 2012, I am now ceasing all involvement with any and all forums, mailing lists and newsgroups. Specifically, I will no longer respond to posts on the electro-music forum. Please don't taint their good forum and expect me to take my time to reply. I need to devote what little time I have to finishing this project. The only place to get information about the MB-808 project is this web site and via email directly to me. (Doug at midibox addict dot com.)
In a way it is good electro-music does not have to host the ensuing shitstorm especially as Doug's actions do not follow the guidelines for selling PCBs on this forum , but it also means Doug has effectively fragmented and silenced those who have sent him $$ as there is no way to publicly vent.
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synthcube
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edited out
I had an email exchange with Doug and apologized for my snarky post.
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MK
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I am very surprised to hear that Doug has now almost stopped the already poor communication.
In my opinion this way of working is not acceptable at the moment of the final payment. |
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Peake
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Doug emailed me this week. Give him a chance to fix all of this.
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