Author |
Message |
Nodular
Joined: May 05, 2005 Posts: 80 Location: Milano
G2 patch files: 7
|
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:23 am Post subject:
What MIDI patch bay should I go for? |
|
|
...with at least 7 (but could grow up) midi devices?
I'd like to be able to set up :
Code: | | IN | OUT | THROUGH |
1 Clavia Nord Modular G2X..............| X | X | X |
1 Clavia Nord Modular Engine...........| X | X | X |
1 Kurzweil K2661.......................| X | X | X |
1 M-Audio Trigger Finger...............| | X | |
1 Doepfer Pocket Control...............| X | X | |
1 Doepfer Pocket Fader.................| X | X | |
1 Edirol FA-101 (PC Audio Device)......| X | X | |
|
Any advice ?
Also on how to ?
Thanks in advance |
|
Back to top
|
|
|
mosc
Site Admin
Joined: Jan 31, 2003 Posts: 18195 Location: Durham, NC
Audio files: 211
G2 patch files: 60
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
deknow
Joined: Sep 15, 2004 Posts: 1307 Location: Leominster, MA (USA)
G2 patch files: 15
|
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:07 am Post subject:
|
|
|
if you use a modern windows os, stay away from the printer port motu mtp's. the driver wreaks havoc (my laptop won't sleep or hibernate if it is loaded), and it has taken me hours at times to load it succesfully after unloading it i keep a win95 machine around specifically because i have one of these. i have no experience with the newer ones, or running these with a modern mac (it worked fine with my 8100).
deknow |
|
Back to top
|
|
|
deknow
Joined: Sep 15, 2004 Posts: 1307 Location: Leominster, MA (USA)
G2 patch files: 15
|
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:11 am Post subject:
|
|
|
...oh, and one thing that has always suprised me about these things. i assumed that these things should allow you to remap midi cc messages (ie, remap breathcontroll, cc2 on an input to volume cc7 on an output), but at least with the motu (and i belive the maudio...i don't know about others), you need to have it connected to a computer to do this (and run midiox or something).
deknow |
|
Back to top
|
|
|
mosc
Site Admin
Joined: Jan 31, 2003 Posts: 18195 Location: Durham, NC
Audio files: 211
G2 patch files: 60
|
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:22 am Post subject:
|
|
|
No problems like this with the Unitor8 product, at least using the serial port. I've never tried to use it without a computer connected though. I find MIDIOX much better than the software that came with it which I never use. _________________ --Howard
my music and other stuff |
|
Back to top
|
|
|
jksuperstar
Joined: Aug 20, 2004 Posts: 2503 Location: Denver
Audio files: 1
G2 patch files: 18
|
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:19 am Post subject:
|
|
|
Like Howard, I have an Emagic, but it's the AMT8 (Unitor without the SMPTE and footpedal inputs). It is very stable. Has both USB and RS-232 connections, and the driver will support up to 16 of these things on 1 computer, so you have room to grow. Also, there is a 4 channel version as well (AMT4), so if you expand beyond 8 channels, you don't need to buy another full 8-chan box. It also has some Logic enhancements, that time-align multiple ports when playing MIDI, much like sample accurate ASIO drivers do for Audio (ie- all MIDI data would get pre-queued IN the external box, then wait for the next MIDI clock to be sent, so you don't get delays between ports). Good for lots of MIDI data on many ports. However, I still don't know if this is specific to Logic, or if it works with other sequencers also.
These go for ~$150 on sale at Musician's Friend right now. (Click through electro-music's front page to get there, so this site get's some support!!!)
It also operates stand-alone (without PC or MAC) and can still route in this fashion. |
|
Back to top
|
|
|
Nodular
Joined: May 05, 2005 Posts: 80 Location: Milano
G2 patch files: 7
|
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:48 am Post subject:
|
|
|
Thanks for your advices.
I forgot to say I'm using a Mac, so I guess I won't be able to run MIDIOX...
I hope that the bundled software will allow me to view midi I/O messages because it's fundamental.
These Emagic products seem ideal for a Mac/Logic environment and I think I'll follow your advices.
Quote: | These go for ~$150 on sale at Musician's Friend right now. (Click through electro-music's front page to get there, so this site get's some support!!!) |
em... I'm not finding them...
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
seraph
Editor
Joined: Jun 21, 2003 Posts: 12398 Location: Firenze, Italy
Audio files: 33
G2 patch files: 2
|
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:37 am Post subject:
|
|
|
Nodular wrote: |
em... I'm not finding them...
|
go to:
http://electro-music.com/
bottom right side
_________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
Quote: | Don't die with your music still in you - Wayne Dyer |
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
jksuperstar
Joined: Aug 20, 2004 Posts: 2503 Location: Denver
Audio files: 1
G2 patch files: 18
|
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
It comes with a specific version of Sound Diver, which only let's you edit the internals of the AMT/Unitor, not other devices. But SoundDiver also has a MIDI monitor counsel built in, so yeah, you've got it.
You'll have to find some other software to route MIDI in the MAC wqhen working outside of Logic, or other (maybe mac has this built in, no idea..) |
|
Back to top
|
|
|
elektro80
Site Admin
Joined: Mar 25, 2003 Posts: 21959 Location: Norway
Audio files: 14
|
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:48 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
There are many tools out there..
hmm..
MidiPipe ??
http://homepage.mac.com/nicowald/SubtleSoft/
Quote: | Product Description:
MidiPipe is freeware and comes with no warranties. It has been well tested and has shown no major problems, but is not finished. It can be useful in a music studio or on stage.
Midi In - connects a MIDI input to the pipe
Midi Out - connects a MIDI output to the pipe
AList - outputs messages to the screen
Message Converter - converts messages from one type to an other
Delay - delays the time for when the message is scheduled
Transpose - transposes note to multiple keys, set velocity, delay and channel for each
Message Filter - filters by messages
Channel Filter - filters by channel
Channel Router - routes channels
Keyboard Split - moves note on/off messages above/below a split point to a different channel
Randomizer - randomly changes any parameter value(s) of any channel message(s)
Keyboard - play a on screen keyboard with your mouse or keys; will display arriving messages too
MicroTuner - apply different scales
Set - set any parameter value(s) of any channel message(s) to any value
Duration - add a delay between Note On and Note Off messages
Control Split - inverse, limit, scale, fade in/out, route and map MIDI controllers
Control Slider - simple slider for control message input
AppleScript Trigger - use the power of AppleScript to implement everything you want
(N)RPN Mapper - map (N)RPNs
Velocity Modifier - scale, shift, and clip the velocity of Note On and Note Off messages
SMF Player - plays up to 128 MIDI Files; handles Song Select, Start/Stop/Continue messages
Key Mapper - map keys
DLS Synth - user interface for Apple's DLS Synth |
_________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
MySpace
SoundCloud
Flickr |
|
Back to top
|
|
|
Nodular
Joined: May 05, 2005 Posts: 80 Location: Milano
G2 patch files: 7
|
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:02 am Post subject:
|
|
|
Thanks thanks thanks
Midipipe seems really good.
sorry, I meant I went there but I can't find AMT8 MT4 or UINTOR. It seems they don't sell any Emagic product either. Or I'm missing the right place to search. |
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|