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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:57 pm    Post subject: Forum upgrade completed.
Subject description: Many new features. Much more stable software
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We are pleased to have completed the much anticipated upgrade of the forum software. Thanks to the many people who work on open source software, and to the electro-music.com moderators that helped me with testing.

Please post to this forum as you uncover problems or inconsistencies.

Aside from many cosmetic changes, a significant improvement is that information about your login and when you read topics is kept in the database now, not on a cookie on your browser. Thus, you won't loose track of unread topics or messages.

We have been waiting for this software upgrade for many months. Now the way is clear for coding more features.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I forgot to mention. One undesired side effect of this upgrade is that we loose all information on your previous login time, so all messages are considered having been read. As time goes on, this will of course become unimportant.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:39 am    Post subject:  Missing Attachments!
Subject description: Hi moscie!
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I think all posted attachments are gone =O

hoppsie doppsie! =D

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I think the attachments are still there.
There are just no permission to view them =X
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You are right. The attachments aren´t visible. These are db entries, and I am sure the info hasn´t been lost. The files on the server are still there too.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, I didn't catch that problem because I can see the attachments when using my account because I have admin permissions. When I log in as a user without admin permissions, there are no attachment. The good news is that they are there. When I figure out where the problem is I'll fix it. Sorry for the incovenience and thanks for the heads up.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Maybe this is related ?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, it was a permissions thing. I had to go in an set individual permissions for all 80 forums for both guests and registered users. I think it should work pretty well now.

Please let me know if there are any other problems observed.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It now looks like :

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shocked

Mine looks like:

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You can now relax

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:47 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

it looks like a great update. I just noticed that "view unread posts" has taken the place of " view posts since last visit" and that it's quite different. I have to get used to it. just to let you know Exclamation I don't know if it's because I am not accustomed to this new feature but could it be possible to reverse to the old setting. it seems more reasonable: if you post a new message and click on "view unread posts" you will not see it. does it make sense?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, that last visit stuff is history. The implication was that you'd catch up with the entire forum on each visit. This keeps lots of stuff in the database includeing when you read each topic. I'm going to post a seprate explaination of that one. Also, be sure to check out View Your Posts which is on the index page. It's really useful too. I'm going to add it to the topics listing page later today after some more coffee... more coffee!!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
after some more coffee... more coffee!!



YEAH!!! bounce bounce bounce bounce

more coffee!!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
Yes, that last visit stuff is history. The implication was that you'd catch up with the entire forum on each visit.

the alternative is to use "View new posts in the last week" to get similar results as "view posts since last visit"

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Yes, that last visit stuff is history.
Sad

i really liked this feature, and used it all the time. if this were a democracy, i'd vote for it back.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

deknow wrote:
... if this were a democracy, i'd vote for it back.

isn't it Question or it's a oligarchy Question
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey, the code is open source. If anyone wants to develop the code for this you are free to do so.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks Howard

things are very snappy, nice job.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:18 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

snappy is right! thanks...

also, somehow the 'new posts' bookmark i have still works. i think logging in took care of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I miss that "View posts since last visit"-link.
I also miss that unread posts become marked as read if you log out and log in again...

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, this is great. Seems to load more quickly?

Very nice work!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Pehr wrote:
I miss that "View posts since last visit"-link.
I also miss that unread posts become marked as read if you log out and log in again...


Sorry that this is going. If you want, you can mark all post as read when you log out. Go to the forum index page and there is a link there near the upper right.

Hope that will help.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I agree with Pehr.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Mohoyoho wrote:
I agree with Pehr.

most everyone seems to agree with that Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Pehr wrote:
I miss that "View posts since last visit"-link.

my solution is:
go to the forum index, look for
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The time now is Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:27 am
All times are UTC + 1
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check those threads that have new posts after the time you left.
I know, it's not very functional and/or elegant but I haven't figured out anything better sofar. Anyone else Question

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi all,

I see some of us (many?) doesn't like the new functionality and want the old behaviour back. I think that's remarkable....
Imho the way it works now is much better. In the past i did regularly loose some unread posts due to the fact that when a session was broken the unread marks were destroyed. And it was very difficult and tedious for me to find the messages i didn't read.

Now they are always there, so that is a big boon. And when i've read a message it is removed from the list instantly. So i only have to click the topmost entry over and over to get to all the messages. Couldn't be easier...(especcialy with my voicerecognition software, but even by hand).
And messages i don't want to read are removed by the "mark all forums read" option.

I do have to adjust my behaviour to the new situation. But that's a price i have to pay for this new functionality. I get the feeling this need for adjusting the behaviour is what makes it unliked by the users (ehhh we).

The functionality is actually more accurate but we aren't used to it so we don't like it. It may be that this is due to the fact that people just don't like adjusting their usual behaviour....even if new behaviour can be more efficient/effective. What do you think?

Thanks you mosc for trying to give us more advanced options. I do appreciate it.

just my 0.02ct

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