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DALEK RING MODULATOR SCHEMATIC
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sheldonstv



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 6:48 am    Post subject: DALEK RING MODULATOR SCHEMATIC Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

[/b][/i] Very Happy Has anyone any schematics available to build one of these ring modulators???
regards mike
thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

kevin lightner has a schematic available here:

http://www.synthfool.com/ringmod.html

it works well, i've built it myself. here are three .mp3 samples:

2 sine waves
http://darkflame.hermetech.net/Musick/Sines.mp3

sine and drums
http://darkflame.hermetech.net/Musick/Drums.mp3

sine and vocals
http://darkflame.hermetech.net/Musick/DalekVoices.mp3
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

alternatively you can buy one ready made from ken stone of cat girl synth fame here:

http://www.cgs.synth.net/modules/cgsrr.html

for only 30 bucks, but it seems to be out of stock at the mo though.

i have one, and it sounds fantastic (better than the one above which i built myself).
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey, Darkflame and Sheldonstv.

welcome to electro-music.com

Good to have you here...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

here are some active Ring Modulators
take a look...

its analog and uses LM13700 (transconductance Amp) + 3 op amps , 8 resistors and 2 pots - thats all! so it´s really super simple

macaba wrote:
Just to let you guys know, i've stripboarded this ring modulator, and it works absolutely fine. Mosc was totally correct about the osc leaking through, its very slight. As for the sound, i've no idea what a proper ring modulator is supposed to sound like, but this sounds groovy.


http://www.ori.org/~aaronc/synth/
and scroll down for ring modulator


Ray Wilsons AD633 based Ring Modulator

and there are many others -

read this topic on Sound Lab forum:
Ring Modulator for the Sound Lab

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Very Happy Thanks for the replies,are there any others around-the digital ones are of interest to me....
regards mike
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

sheldonstv wrote:
Very Happy the digital ones are of interest to me....


if you want to have the "original" Dalek sounds you should make them as they are made . . .
so Moog MF102 is your choise .. but im sure there is some digital stuff also ...

This post is from Pete Swarbrick on the Analogue Heaven mailing list:
Pete Swarbrick wrote:

As some of you in the UK know, my day-job involves the supply and tech
support of cameras and associated kit to the film and TV industry.On my
latest visit to the new Dr Who production I spotted the guy doing the Dalek
voices hidden round the back with a good old Coles lip-mic and a small rack
of audio stuff. On further inspection it turned out that the majority of
the rack was not in use, the only active bit was a mic amp/compressor which
was feeding (vaguely AH-relevant bit coming up:) a Moog MF102 Ring mod
hanging round the side. I know there has been a debate about the original
Dalek voices being true ring mod or just a fast-gated VCA but I thought
maybe one or two of you here might like to know how it's being done this
time around. Can't remember any settings apart from square LFO though

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Be careful. If you want to replicate the sound of these salt shakers from hell, you better get the original actors to do the talking. Even if you get the exact effect right, if you have a Texas drawl, you might never get the right sound. It would help to be the same gender of the original actors too... Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Very Happy ive had a look at some of the schematics and im going to build two different types,one of which is quite unusual,ive got it here for you-the easier one to build will be the transformer/diode type but the discrete transistor one looks good too
regards mike



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