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Acidfever
Joined: Aug 25, 2004 Posts: 49
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:56 am Post subject:
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Hi,
My G2 Engine says "1.1" on the front. I figured this was the hardware revision.
Is 1.1 the latest hardware revision and does anyone know what's changed in the different revisions? |
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blue hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 24079 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:10 pm Post subject:
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Yes, 1.1 is the hardware version/revision, my racks are both 1.1 as well.
Can't remember having heard of other versions. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Rob
Joined: Mar 29, 2004 Posts: 580 Location: The Hague/Netherlands/EC
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:07 pm Post subject:
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Acidfever wrote: | Hi,
My G2 Engine says "1.1" on the front. I figured this was the hardware revision.
Is 1.1 the latest hardware revision and does anyone know what's changed in the different revisions? |
This version number on the outside is actually more like the version number of the graphic design of the enclosure. Engine is 1.1 and the 3 oct keyboard G2 says it is 1.4. But Engine, G2 and G2X all have the same motherboard (although the Engine motherboard lacks the A/D converter chip for the controlpedal input as present on the key versions).
Btw, there will be no hardware revisions for the DSP boards for the G2 ever. If there ever will be a new motherboard it will be in a G3, with should then use a new and yet to be developed generation of DSP chips. So, I heard that at Clavia there is no plan to even start thinking about what a G3 could ever look like...
However, there is a new software update for the Editor program in the make. Last news is that they are still working hard on several issues that haven't been fully sorted out yet, and there is not even a hint of a possible release date. Could be Christmas, could be next March, could be next summer... Even the programmers have no clue when the work might be finished.
Applying genetic mutation algorithms on sounds in a sensible way is a totally new subject in the music instrument business, note that the update is planned to be much more than just a random patch generator! And as the Clavia developers want to do a real good job they take their time to investigate all the many different options on how to apply these genetic algoritms. Which I suppose is in the end only good for us, the G2 users. |
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Acidfever
Joined: Aug 25, 2004 Posts: 49
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:05 pm Post subject:
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Hmmmm......today someone mentioned me that his G2 Engine has "1.2" printed on the front. Mine says "1.1".....
So this should be a design change and has nothing to do with the actual device itself?
And eh......G3? Are there plans for that or where you just making a point? |
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Rob
Joined: Mar 29, 2004 Posts: 580 Location: The Hague/Netherlands/EC
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:12 pm Post subject:
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Acidfever wrote: | And eh......G3? Are there plans for that or where you just making a point? |
Just like I said: no plans. |
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Acidfever
Joined: Aug 25, 2004 Posts: 49
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:18 am Post subject:
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Rob wrote: | Acidfever wrote: | And eh......G3? Are there plans for that or where you just making a point? |
Just like I said: no plans. |
K, any ideas on the difference between G2 Engine 1.1 and 1.2?
I am offered a second G2 Engine for a nice amount of money. My own G2 Engine is v1.1 and the one offered is v1.2. So i really want to know the differences before i decide to get it.
The idea is to take one G2 Engine as an FX solution and dedicate the other one as synthesis machine.
8 i/o rackpower seems like a nice idea! |
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Rob
Joined: Mar 29, 2004 Posts: 580 Location: The Hague/Netherlands/EC
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:30 am Post subject:
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Acidfever wrote: | I am offered a second G2 Engine for a nice amount of money. My own G2 Engine is v1.1 and the one offered is v1.2. So i really want to know the differences before i decide to get it. |
All G2 models use the same motherboard, no matter what version number is on the cover. The Engines reading 1.1 are from the very first production run and are quite rare. But it is only some minor details in the graphic layout on the front that is the difference.
(This motherboard remark excludes three alpha G2Key models that read v1.2 on their front and have not been and never will be for sale. )
Acidfever wrote: | The idea is to take one G2 Engine as an FX solution and dedicate the other one as synthesis machine.
8 i/o rackpower seems like a nice idea! |
Which is a very good solution, pairs of Engines. If one is expanded as well that one is the perfect synthesis engine while the second unexpanded one is then the great whacky FX unit.
See :http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhordijk/Images/G2EnginesWoodenSides.gif |
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Acidfever
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:16 am Post subject:
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Ok....well that at least stops me wondering if there is any difference between the different version numbers.
Now for choosing if i'm getting a second G2 Engine or something else like a MPC1000.
Rob wrote: | Acidfever wrote: | I am offered a second G2 Engine for a nice amount of money. My own G2 Engine is v1.1 and the one offered is v1.2. So i really want to know the differences before i decide to get it. |
All G2 models use the same motherboard, no matter what version number is on the cover. The Engines reading 1.1 are from the very first production run and are quite rare. But it is only some minor details in the graphic layout on the front that is the difference.
(This motherboard remark excludes three alpha G2Key models that read v1.2 on their front and have not been and never will be for sale. )
Acidfever wrote: | The idea is to take one G2 Engine as an FX solution and dedicate the other one as synthesis machine.
8 i/o rackpower seems like a nice idea! |
Which is a very good solution, pairs of Engines. If one is expanded as well that one is the perfect synthesis engine while the second unexpanded one is then the great whacky FX unit.
See :http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhordijk/Images/G2EnginesWoodenSides.gif |
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mother misty
Joined: May 13, 2004 Posts: 681 Location: Ghent / Belgium
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:36 am Post subject:
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Rob wrote: | Applying genetic mutation algorithms on sounds in a sensible way is a totally new subject in the music instrument business, note that the update is planned to be much more than just a random patch generator! |
I really like the sound of those last words |
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Acidfever
Joined: Aug 25, 2004 Posts: 49
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:06 pm Post subject:
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Ok i found the differences between 1.1 and 1.2.
The 1.2 has an xtra ventilation hole on top and 2 little ventilation holes in the side.
Would this mean the cooling isn't sufficient in revision 1.1 housings? |
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Ivity
Joined: Dec 29, 2005 Posts: 233 Location: Moscow, Russia
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:40 am Post subject:
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I have 3-octave version of NMG2.
The signature on the front panel says, that hardware revision is 1.5.
What's the difference between the revisions 1.4 and 1.5? _________________ Igor
www.myspace.com/phoiod
www.bl-project.com/Ivity.html |
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mother misty
Joined: May 13, 2004 Posts: 681 Location: Ghent / Belgium
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:03 am Post subject:
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Ivity wrote: | I have 3-octave version of NMG2.
The signature on the front panel says, that hardware revision is 1.5.
What's the difference between the revisions 1.4 and 1.5? |
Interesting... you're the first one I know who has a v1.5
Maybe it's related to this
http://www.electro-music.com/forum/topic-6648.html
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Ivity
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mother misty
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:21 am Post subject:
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I want a v1.5 aswell! |
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Ivity
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cebec
Joined: Apr 19, 2004 Posts: 1098 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:45 am Post subject:
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haha, time for a trade-in! i wonder if they made any other changes... |
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Tim Kleinert
Joined: Mar 12, 2004 Posts: 1148 Location: Zürich, Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:51 am Post subject:
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1.4 is more vintage, sounds fatter and warmer. |
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cebec
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:48 am Post subject:
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tim wrote: | 1.4 is more vintage, sounds fatter and warmer. |
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Jason
Joined: Aug 12, 2004 Posts: 466 Location: Los Angeles, CA. USA
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:10 pm Post subject:
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Rob wrote: |
However, there is a new software update for the Editor program in the make. Last news is that they are still working hard on several issues that haven't been fully sorted out yet |
cool I am glad I read through this thread as I was going to ask if there were any known OS update plans and this is great news to hear. I dare hope for new modules the cymbal module is insane etc, so just adding another sound source would be so awesome though who knows what will happen... Thanks for info |
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Fozzie
Joined: Jun 04, 2004 Posts: 875 Location: Near Wageningen, the Netherlands
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:32 pm Post subject:
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That software revision is already finished, it is SOFTware version 1.4 (not to be mistaken with the HARDware versions that have been mentioned here). Although development has not stopped permanently, there are no current plans for a new update. |
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Jason
Joined: Aug 12, 2004 Posts: 466 Location: Los Angeles, CA. USA
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject:
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gah sorry Fozzie my mistake older thread than I realized
I will be content with my G2 regardless...
Thank You |
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kaaskop
Joined: Sep 18, 2007 Posts: 7 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:21 am Post subject:
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Hi.
First post here.
Just read this thread about revision numbers. Someone mentioned that the first released vesion was 1.1. Is that number painted on or is it just a sticker that could come off?
My Engine doesn't appear to have a revision number. It's an early model, because it has a single air vent in the top (and one in the back and in the bottom).
BTW, despite the single top vent, it only gets warm after hours of use, not hot. |
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blue hell
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:37 am Post subject:
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kaaskop
It's on the front in very small print, when you don't have it it's maybe really old? _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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