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A switch matrix would be cool...
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ersatzplanet



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:05 am    Post subject: A switch matrix would be cool... Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I would love to have a 8x8 or 16x16 switch matrix module. I know it's functions can be done via other methods but coming from a Synthi AKS background, a patch matrix/switcher would be very useful to me. Having the patching visualy depicted in the matrix is somthing I'm more used to.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: A switch matrix would be cool... Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ersatzplanet wrote:
I would love to have a 8x8 or 16x16 switch matrix module.


The mixer modules with pushbuttons are imho actually quite good to make matrices of any size. There is one big advantage when using these mixer modules: it is easy to keep part of the matrix blue, and thus save on DSP power.

See attached patch for an example of a 12x12 matrix synth. Compared to a Synthi this method uses the buttons for pins, but the extra knobs add much flexibility plus they sort of overcome the 'unbuffered' pin behaviour of the Synthi.

On a keyboard G2 the button texts show up nicely in the displays (when assigned) and the panel pushbuttons are a very quick pin plug/unplug facility. My guess is that a matrix module is only sensible if it would sort of have those buttons and knobs as well. So I really think we already have matrices in the most flexible way possible.

Btw, in some dark past I used to fool around a lot with a Synthi. The only thing I miss in the G2 is the shaking of the box when the springreverb was used, like when patched in e.g. a feedback path. Wink


Matrix Synth.pch2
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A model of a 12x12 matrix synth EMS Synthi style, using mixer module with pushbuttons to build the matrix. (Not per sé meant to be a Synthi emulation!)

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:17 am    Post subject: Re: A switch matrix would be cool... Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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The mixer modules with pushbuttons are imho actually quite good to make matrices of any size. There is one big advantage when using these mixer modules: it is easy to keep part of the matrix blue, and thus save on DSP power.
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Thanks for the patch. I think The method you have shown is VERY flexible, but for me, a little too large and complex. I think that a simple cange that would work for me would be to change the current SW1-8 and SW8-1 switch modules so that multiple switches can be on at once. Then a matrix could easily made from them.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Rob, i love this one! I have 2 soft EMS synthi's and planned to make it for the G2. I love your 'spring reverb' in particular. Thnx. I added Midi cc's. And played with EvolvCC(Palle Dahlsted) and MidiMod(Jan Punter)........that's a lot of FUN.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Rob's patch demonstrates an excellent matrix switch/mixer.

If this patch were made into a hardware synth, it would be fabulous. something that could make a tremendous variety of sounds. It would be an instant classic.

There are so many things to adjust, it is almost mind-boggling. A person could make a career playing a patch such as this. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:01 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This is an excellent-sounding synth and the matrix is brilliant!

Are all the scroll buttons in the matrix's mixers set correctly? they are either dB or Lin but the FiltMod row is unlike the other rows.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

cebec wrote:
Are all the scroll buttons in the matrix's mixers set correctly? they are either dB or Lin but the FiltMod row is unlike the other rows.


Yes, that is intended.

The FiltMod likes the linear knobs for keyboard, lfo and sequencer signals to easily scale to the octave scale. But for audio signals it works nicest if the modulation index is just shallow, so the dB or Exp knobscales work out best to extend the shallow modulation range. Well, imho... Very Happy

Just check out what yóu like best, but I did have some thoughts about it.
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