electro-music.com   Dedicated to experimental electro-acoustic
and electronic music
 
    Front Page  |  Articles  |  Radio
 |  Media  |  Forum  |  Wiki  |  Links  |  Store
Forum with support of Syndicator RSS
 FAQFAQ   CalendarCalendar   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   LinksLinks
 RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in  Chat RoomChat Room 
Live streaming at radio.electro-music.com

  host / artist show at your time
  bingsatellites Mostly Ambient
Please visit the chat
 Forum index » Discussion » Schmooze
Drummers: BE PROUD!
Post new topic   Reply to topic
Page 1 of 1 [17 Posts]
View unread posts
View new posts in the last week
Mark the topic unread :: View previous topic :: View next topic
Author Message
Oskar



Joined: Jul 29, 2004
Posts: 1714
Location: Norway

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:01 am    Post subject: Drummers: BE PROUD!
Subject description: According to science, you have reason to be.
Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

A scientific study shows that drummers have levels of physical endurance on a par with top athletes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7518888.stm

_________________
Where there are too many policemen, there is no liberty. Where there are too many soldiers, there is no peace. Where there are too many lawyers, there is no justice.
Lin Yutang (1895-1976)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Rykhaard



Joined: Sep 02, 2007
Posts: 1290
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: Drummers: BE PROUD!
Subject description: According to science, you have reason to be.
Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oskar wrote:
A scientific study shows that drummers have levels of physical endurance on a par with top athletes.



But - what about if you're an excellent drummer in your mind, like me? (I haven't had a kit for years and years). Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
destroyifyer



Joined: Mar 22, 2006
Posts: 425
Location: Babylon
Audio files: 4

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, not to mention a keen mathematic perception of rythm, wicked hand-eye coordination, and of course a soda-pop that gets kicked over onto the bass pedal.

I'd personally consider the best drummers as being "mentally" skilled as opposed to physically skilled, Obviously. Like, the dominance of the mind over the limbs, nerve signals. I know it sounds basic, but you know, something to think about I guess.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Rykhaard



Joined: Sep 02, 2007
Posts: 1290
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

destroyifyer wrote:
Yes, not to mention a keen mathematic perception of rythm, wicked hand-eye coordination, and of course a soda-pop that gets kicked over onto the bass pedal.

I'd personally consider the best drummers as being "mentally" skilled as opposed to physically skilled, Obviously. Like, the dominance of the mind over the limbs, nerve signals. I know it sounds basic, but you know, something to think about I guess.


I have to agree with this quite strongly. With such a power of mental control, a drummer would known instinctively, how how intensely to play for how long, before the 'energy' / drive, run out. Rhythmic intuition?

I'm able to mentally (sonically internal) picture / imagine percussion bits that I haven't the years of experience to do, physically. Most of the time I'm able to key them in to a sequencer though. Smile

Sounds basic? Beyond that, to an experienced (physical) drummer. Wink Possibly, to anyone with natural rhythm as well.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
neandrewthal



Joined: May 11, 2007
Posts: 669
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've barely touched my kit since I got into synthesizers. Maybe that's why I'm getting fat Shocked
_________________
" I went through quite a few trannies til I found one I liked" - Wild Zebra
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Rykhaard



Joined: Sep 02, 2007
Posts: 1290
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

neandrewthal wrote:
I've barely touched my kit since I got into synthesizers. Maybe that's why I'm getting fat Shocked


Maybe try dropping your own Control Voltage to +5 instead of +10V. ?? Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
BobTheDog



Joined: Feb 28, 2005
Posts: 3767
Location: England
Audio files: 32
G2 patch files: 15

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have always thought drummers are very underrated, unless they have a big van that is.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Oskar



Joined: Jul 29, 2004
Posts: 1714
Location: Norway

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You might say that drummers are the main reason I don't play much in bands in anymore, although my angle may be slightly surprising: I've been spoilt rotten by playing with a couple of Norway's best drummers, so whenever I play with lesser practitioiners I tend to stop and think, God how much better this would sound with Steinar Krokstad, Sola Jonsen or Morten Skogstad. It's not as though I'm such a fantastic player myself, but the acoustic properties of trap drums are such that it's very easy to overpower the rest of the ensemble, unless you've got near perfect command of your instrument. Seeing as I mainly play acoustic guitar and sing, I find playing with drums - and bass guitar - there's not much point in my playing anything anyway, as it won't be heard above the rhythm section.
Having said that, I absolutely LOVE playing nasty loud electric guitar or B-3 when the rhythm section is coming on like a steam train from Hell, the drummer screaming with exhilaration and pain, your innards getting a good shake and your throat sbeing shredded from wailing the Blues!

_________________
Where there are too many policemen, there is no liberty. Where there are too many soldiers, there is no peace. Where there are too many lawyers, there is no justice.
Lin Yutang (1895-1976)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Oskar



Joined: Jul 29, 2004
Posts: 1714
Location: Norway

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

BobTheDog wrote:
I have always thought drummers are very underrated, unless they have a big van that is.


Touché! Laughing

_________________
Where there are too many policemen, there is no liberty. Where there are too many soldiers, there is no peace. Where there are too many lawyers, there is no justice.
Lin Yutang (1895-1976)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
seraph
Editor
Editor


Joined: Jun 21, 2003
Posts: 12010
Location: Firenze, Italy
Audio files: 31
G2 patch files: 2

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks god for drum machines Twisted Evil
_________________
homepage - blog - forum - youtube

Quote:
Politics is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex - Frank Zappa
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
neandrewthal



Joined: May 11, 2007
Posts: 669
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:
thanks god for drum machines Twisted Evil

Those are against my religion.

_________________
" I went through quite a few trannies til I found one I liked" - Wild Zebra
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
W.T.



Joined: Jul 11, 2004
Posts: 262
Location: The Netherlands
Audio files: 1
G2 patch files: 11

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:
thanks god for drum machines Twisted Evil


thank ""human kind"" for inventing drumcomputers and evolution for great jazzy drummers.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Inventor
Stream Operator


Joined: Oct 13, 2007
Posts: 5948
Location: San Antonio, Tx, USA
Audio files: 256

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

On the subject of working out with musical instruments, I have just begun to work on a guitar workout routine of sorts. I'm thinking of drilling out the unused portions of the guitar body to make handles and radio-equipment pockets, then putting a WiiMote and a wireless guitar transmitter in the pockets. Then I can grab the guitar with one hand, strum with the other, and "play" the sound with motion-controlled effects. Just something that I've been thinking about. Good idea or not?
_________________
"Let's make noise for peace." - Kijjaz
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
BobTheDog



Joined: Feb 28, 2005
Posts: 3767
Location: England
Audio files: 32
G2 patch files: 15

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Inventor wrote:
On the subject of working out with musical instruments, I have just begun to work on a guitar workout routine of sorts. I'm thinking of drilling out the unused portions of the guitar body to make handles and radio-equipment pockets, then putting a WiiMote and a wireless guitar transmitter in the pockets. Then I can grab the guitar with one hand, strum with the other, and "play" the sound with motion-controlled effects. Just something that I've been thinking about. Good idea or not?


A slight warning here, the "unused" bits are actually being used and are helping to produce the sound that you hear.

I have an old Casio PG380 guitar ( http://www.hendrixguitars.com/CasioPG380.htm ) that has loads of electronics inside it, to get around the fact that they still needed quite a lot of wood to make the guitar sound good they just made the body about a foot thick!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Inventor
Stream Operator


Joined: Oct 13, 2007
Posts: 5948
Location: San Antonio, Tx, USA
Audio files: 256

PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

BobTheDog wrote:

A slight warning here, the "unused" bits are actually being used and are helping to produce the sound that you hear.

I have an old Casio PG380 guitar ( http://www.hendrixguitars.com/CasioPG380.htm ) that has loads of electronics inside it, to get around the fact that they still needed quite a lot of wood to make the guitar sound good they just made the body about a foot thick!


Wow, I thought of that but didn't give it the seriousness it deserves. Do you think it would be better to just mount the components on top of the guitar? I can do that comfortably as well. I've already made the first handle, or half of it anyway, so there's no turning back on that one, haha!

_________________
"Let's make noise for peace." - Kijjaz
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
BobTheDog



Joined: Feb 28, 2005
Posts: 3767
Location: England
Audio files: 32
G2 patch files: 15

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well its up to you really, removing lots of wood will affect the tone and also the sustain of the guitar.

Cheers

Andy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Inventor
Stream Operator


Joined: Oct 13, 2007
Posts: 5948
Location: San Antonio, Tx, USA
Audio files: 256

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, I think I will just cut the one handle and mount the other components on the surface of the guitar. That one handle, I'm finding in tests already, is excellent for the intended task, so great! Cheers, Andy.

Les

_________________
"Let's make noise for peace." - Kijjaz
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic
Page 1 of 1 [17 Posts]
View unread posts
View new posts in the last week
Mark the topic unread :: View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » Discussion » Schmooze
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
Niio2

Please support our site. If you click through and buy from
our affiliate partners, we earn a small commission.


Forum with support of Syndicator RSS
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
Copyright © 2003 through 2009 by electro-music.com - Conditions Of Use