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Wogglebug #3 PCB groupbuy
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sneakthief



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: Wogglebug #3 PCB groupbuy Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

NOTE: I'm not organizing this groupbuy - so please contact unit-sound if you're interested


- unit-sound posted this in the Wogglebug thread, but *I* think it deserves it's own Wink

unit-sound wrote:

Has anybody interest on a group-buy organized professional pcb (designed by Ryan Williams) from a pcb manufacturer.

More info at: http://diy.czmok.de/Group-Buys.66.0.html

Please drop me a PM if interested. (click here to PM unit-sound!)


I've had some nice discussions with Ryan about this board during the past year - he's spent a while testing it and working out all the kinks. In other words, this one's a winner Cool

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janvanvolt



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject: Re: Wogglebug #3 PCB groupbuy Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the honor.

I have received the first offer from the pcb manufacturer:

PCB order data:
Measurements: FR4 109 x 99 x 1,5 mm CU 35
Type: 2-layer PCB with protective seal & position printing, edge cutted
Price per PCB: 7.10 EUR (Price per PCB of a batch of 50 PCB)
Base Costs: 2 EUR per PCB.

Based on that, i calculate the following for the groupbuy:

Price per PCB in Europe (incl. Shipping): 10 EUR + s&h
Price per PCB in USA ( incl. Shipping): 15 USD + s&h

S&H = letter with bubblewrap (1.5 EUR) + postage ( approx. 2-4 EUR)

In order to get binding orders now, we'll start the groupbuy today and it closes in 30 days (08/10/07) or when we reach a batch of 50 earlier.

All relevant information can be found here:

http://diy.czmok.de/Group-Buys.66.0.html

Order information can be found there as well.
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Fernando



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

great initiative, thank you!

and very pro order form

it's really like chirstmas around, as someone said!
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janvanvolt



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Fernano,

i tried it to make it as easy for everyone. HAndling 50 Orders (or even more ... who knows) need some kind of organization.

With the form (and a database behind) it's a bit easier to handle.
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Fernando



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

there's something I don't understand...

it is 10 euro for europe includding shipping
+ 1,5 bubble envelope

but then 4 euro again for postage?

I already paid but then I realized something seems to be wrong...

edit: all clarified now (see below), I missunderstood, sorry (siesta time here drunken )


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sneakthief



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

the page says: "Price per PCB in Europe (incl. Shipping): 10 EUR + s&h" - so "incl. shipping" = "s&h"

fyi: shipping cd-sized packages within germany is about 2 euro, but up to 4,50 euro in other eu countries.

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janvanvolt



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Okay, i need to outline:

The price from mme per pcb is calculated like this:

board price 7.10 EUR + setup costs(partial) 2EUR + shipping costs FROM mme to me (0.50) = 10 EUR approx.

and the shipment from me to you is extra (that is the s&h fee).

I updated the webpage. Thanks for pointint that out.
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Photon



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Will the boards include a parts list and panel connection diagram?

Thanks for organizing this.
Peter


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janvanvolt



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Photon wrote:
Will the boards include a parts list and panel connection diagram?

Thanks for organizing this.
Peter

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I'm working on this as well; yes.
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waterbuffalo18



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

NOTE: I'm am also not organizing this groupbuy, but i can help if needed.

all the information is there, schematic, parts list, notes. of course if anyone has problems or wants to tweak it in some way, i'll be around. it is a funny little circuit.

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janvanvolt



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

waterbuffalo18 wrote:
NOTE: I'm am also not organizing this groupbuy, but i can help if needed.

all the information is there, schematic, parts list, notes. of course if anyone has problems or wants to tweak it in some way, i'll be around. it is a funny little circuit.


So... We are at 55 now.

The possible batches are : 10/25/50/100/250/500/1000

Either we take 45 more OR i need to cancel 5 PCB's from the list.
I have asked for the price of 100 pcs, maybe we can save/return a small amount of money per PCB.

So... if you haven't ordered, do so please Smile
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janvanvolt



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Wogglebug #3 PCB groupbuy Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Update for all:

I have ordered the bubble wrap covers,
i also have ordered 80 PCB's (we're currently at 74 orders) if they
agree to my terms (usually they do either 10/20/50/100).

So.. I'll expect to arrive the stuff within the next 3 week maximum.

I'll keep you all updated. Those who are on the list and still with "req" please make sure to send your payment soon...

--jan
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

great, thank you!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well that order form should be easy to use but I think I've messed it up with my order for 1 board. Could you check for me and let me know if you need any other data.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

slo wrote:
Well that order form should be easy to use but I think I've messed it up with my order for 1 board. Could you check for me and let me know if you need any other data.


What's your name / email ? If you are not yet on the list please resubmit the form at

http://diy.czmok.de/Group-Buys.66.0.html

and i'll process it asap. In the meantime i put you on the temp list.
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janvanvolt



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Okay, we're at 91 now. Last orders please *g*
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: Wogglebug #3 PCB groupbuy Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Guys,

Please check http://diy.czmok.de/Group-Buys.66.0.html
for errors. I have now booked & edited all payments, orders and everything.

The PCB's are ordered now, as well as the packaging for it.

I still have a lot of unpaid requests ... Please take care to pay them within the next 7 days because i need to do partial payment of the order ( due to the volume).

Thanks to all who payed already.
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fluxmonkey



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i really appreciate the way you're going about this... online order submission (rather than postings via the board), keeping track and publishing who's ordered, how many, payment status... with so many PCB offerings lately, this really helps me out as i'm sure it does you.

and not least, thanks for undertaking the entire project!

bbob
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:35 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thank you ! It's a community thing. Fonik and others did some good orders as well. We all want the community to grow. And at last: we all want to have fun with our music (and the synths/modules we built).

I also thank you all for the massive participation !
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: Wogglebug #3 PCB groupbuy Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Schema Files & Parts & Frontpanel Design have been uploaded on my site.

http://diy.czmok.de/Group-Buys.66.0.html

Thanks to Ryan Williams to originally do this nice design and all the work!
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krellmusician



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Will there be any other opportunities for a Wogglebug PCB in the (hopefully near) future?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

krellmusician wrote:
Will there be any other opportunities for a Wogglebug PCB in the (hopefully near) future?



well... there is a substential interest in the module ... i'll probably do another run when we're thru with the first one. it takes a considerable amount of time to do all the preps, packages et al.

so ... good news to the ones who couldn't get some in this batch.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: Wogglebug #3 PCB groupbuy Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Just as an update for all:

I spoke with mme-pcb prior to the weekend. Due to the holidays and many orders in parallel they have a delay in the production. even worse, that one machine needs to be serviced.

He'll expect to have full capacity later this week, so i will (finally) have those in the next 10-14 days and then start the shiparound.

I'll keep you updated.

--jan
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julianw



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: woggle boggle Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey Jan,

I've been jumping up and down listening to this crazy Wogglebug video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFjz-ogqLk4

and listening to Grant's awesome Krell Fantasy http://www.wiard.com/samples/Krell%20Fantasy.mp3

Posted Image, might have been reduced in size. Click Image to view fullscreen.

I know I'm a little late to the party, but is there any chance of squeezing in an extra board, or doing another run?
(Its for my spaceship)
too much coffee this circuit sounds ace!



Thanks Julian
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:42 am    Post subject: Re: woggle boggle Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Due to the large interested in this module we surely will do a second run, however, i probably need to find another supplier as the current one (mme-pcb) has LARGE delays and BAD communication. he confirmed me that they are in production ( the pcbs) but have no definite date yet Sad
and it's way overdue...
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