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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:38 pm    Post subject: MIDI over Internet Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It all started a few months ago, when in a discussion in the chat, MusicMan11712 and I came to the idea of streaming MIDI over the internet. We decided to pick it up in the summer. Well, this morning he said to me "you remember talking about midi over internet?"
We experimented a bit today. Of course we had some problems, I am on a linux machine, and he on a windows pc. In the end we tried the windows app MidiTangle. I had to run in under Wine, but with a bit of wine config, it worked!

MusicMan11712 was playing his USB midi keyboard, and I tweaked the softsynth ZynAddSubFX.

Two videos I shoot with my phone (bad audio quality!) The first one explains it a bit, the second has some music we created in the background.



Cheers,
Woody

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MidiTangle: http://jcfmusic.com/miditangle.htm
ZynAddSubFX: http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And you can easily roll your own too (and be compatible with Miditangle). Just open a TCP port and a MIDI port and move on all data received over MIDI to TCP and the other way around .. just be sure to disable the Nagle algortithm on de TCP port.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There is also the possibility to send midi over Open Sound Control (OSC), for instance Kyma supports this on the newer machines.

This may be supported by other companies in the future, I have some Max and Max4Live internals that support this if you are interested?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This might be useful for a self generating miditangled network http://freemusicsoftware.org/category/free-midi-vst/audio-to-midi
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Now everyone can interact and control each others instruments all around the world like it's a giant fractal music studio! How cool is that!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

patrickvf1976 wrote:
Now everyone can interact and control each others instruments all around the world like it's a giant fractal music studio! How cool is that!
I like the comparison with fractals!!!! Very nice!!!!!
I hadn't thought about it before, that this could also be done with midi data if each person's networked hardware or software in a chain retransmitted altered incoming midi data. Cool indeed!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I guess it would all be a matter of ironing out issues with different internet speeds, distance and the delay that results from it but I think it should be doable if everybody in the cluster has fast enough broadband connections. Let's put together a monster network modular! Very Happy
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