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NORD MODULAR G2 vs. Older models/ALTERNATIVE SYNTHESIS
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:52 am    Post subject:  NORD MODULAR G2 vs. Older models/ALTERNATIVE SYNTHESIS
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I have a micro-modular and a first edition modular. I am a sound artist in the MFA program at the Chicago Art Institute. I am starting a synthesis that will be taught with the computer program Max MSP. I have permission to use my nord modulars as an alternative tool for going through the synthesis exercises. but, i have a few snags:

- Granular synthesis? i don't think i can do this with my nords but i was wondering if i could somehow configure an effects patch to break up an audio input and simulate some type of granular sound?

- Physical modeling synthesis: i read that G2 engine can do physical modeling synthesis. can the older nord modulars do this?

- what are the synth/engine differences between G2 and older modulars? i have read about the interface being more performance friendly in G2s but haven't been able to find much about the difference in sound engines between old and new...

- can you recommend any sites that have detailed step by step instructions for building various type of nord modular patches?

Thanks for your time, hope to hear from soon!

margaret
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

welcome

You can use the forum's search engine to find more information. The G2 can be used in some ways for granular synthesis, see: http://electro-music.com/forum/viewtopic.php?highlight=granular+synthesis&t=2718

It can also be used for Physical Modeling. Check out all the posts by Chet Singer who has an excellent Physical Modeling tutorial here: http://chet.getchwood.com/G2-Tutorial/Index.htm

His patches are listed here: http://electro-music.com/g2patches.php?owner=Chet

I think the g2 is much better for PM because of the more predictable execution order. The g2 has sample memory too. If you have a choice, I think there is no choice but to use the g2. Wink

For patching information (other than this site) check out http://g2.sebastianberweck.de/content/category/6/37/54/ and http://www.clavia.se/nordmodular/Modularzone/FMsynthesis.html and http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhordijk/G2Pages/ or maybe better, http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhordijk/Proto/Index.htm

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: thanks, wish i had a g2 :-)
Subject description: granular/physical modeling with old modulars
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hey, thanks for the fast and helpful reply. so, does that mean that with the old modulars i have (without G2 engines) that:

- i can't do any type of granular or "granular like" synthesis?

- i can do some types of physical modeling buut the G2 is better for this?

do you have any people or patch sites you refer for the old school modular engines?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: NORD MODULAR G2 vs. Older models/ALTERNATIVE SYNTHESIS
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Margaret,

Welcome. The MFA program sounds really interesting. Props to you!

I am not the expert here. I am a fellow student. But I thought I would share what I have found, and let others correct/add to as appropriate.

margaretnoble wrote:

- can you recommend any sites that have detailed step by step instructions for building various type of nord modular patches?


I go to five places to learn about various types of patches on the Nord Modular ...

1) I post specific questions here, as you have done.

2) I am studying Jim Clark's book on Nord Modular programming:
http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/nordmodularbook/nm_book_toc.html
You will see from the table of contents that it deals with your questions on granular synthesis and physical modelling synthesis on the Nord Modular 1. Others here can fill you in on specific additional capabilities of the G2 in these areas.

3) A more basic primer on nord modular programming can be found at the clavia webpage here:
http://www.clavia.se/nordmodular/Modularzone/index.html

4) I study the patches and useful threads from the user community which can be found at this domain:
http://nm-archives.electro-music.com/

5) I am also studying Rob Hordijks' rather excellent treatise on synthesis:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhordijk/Proto/Index.htm

Hoping this helps you,

Jerry
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello

I have translated some of the PM examples in J Clarke's book and they work well for demonstrating physical modelling principles.

Granular might be difficult on the NM Classic due to its sad lack of significant delay modules.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There's a granular patch by Palle in J Clark's book. That's for the NM.

http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/nordmodularbook/nm_oscillator.html
Look for the last patch.

BTW, you can google "nord modular granular" or whatever, there have been more sites for the NM, although nowadays everybody's here.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:18 am    Post subject: THANKS Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You guys have been really helpful and i really appreciate it!!!!!
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