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Pehr
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bugbrand
Joined: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 846 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:41 am Post subject:
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I've had ongoing fights with the older ISD1416 - pretty similar chip but less recording time.
Buffer signal straight into the AnaIn (miss out the mic pre) for general audio work.
Can this chip not be clocked externally? Get the full datasheet from Winbond (they make the ISD chips) - that allows repitching
This chip has slightly different control than on the 1416 - you can randomise a sample with the 1416.
I had loads of problems with the output 'cos its meant to be hooked up direct to a speaker -- the analogue circuit from the Mobius Trip works well around the circuit ('cos you probably don't want it to be a box with mic-in, speaker-out -> would be better line in/out).. I've got links and some circuit details on my electronics page _________________ http://www.bugbrand.co.uk
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Pehr
Joined: Aug 14, 2005 Posts: 1307 Location: Björkvik, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:34 am Post subject:
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bugbrand wrote: | I've had ongoing fights with the older ISD1416 - pretty similar chip but less recording time.
Buffer signal straight into the AnaIn (miss out the mic pre) for general audio work.
Can this chip not be clocked externally? Get the full datasheet from Winbond (they make the ISD chips) - that allows repitching
This chip has slightly different control than on the 1416 - you can randomise a sample with the 1416.
I had loads of problems with the output 'cos its meant to be hooked up direct to a speaker -- the analogue circuit from the Mobius Trip works well around the circuit ('cos you probably don't want it to be a box with mic-in, speaker-out -> would be better line in/out).. I've got links and some circuit details on my electronics page |
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dnny
Joined: Mar 12, 2005 Posts: 519 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:01 am Post subject:
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i have couple of those ISD chips waiting ... for me to do something whit them .. but as we know i'm not the fastest guy in here .. but anyway
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mi_dach
Joined: Dec 17, 2005 Posts: 133 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:20 am Post subject:
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dnny wrote: | i have couple of those ISD chips waiting ... for me to do something whit them .. but as we know i'm not the fastest guy in here .. but anyway
" We have a member here, nescivi, that might know something about this device. send him a PM. Maybe he'll chime in."
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Same here Bugbrand, can we get some more info on how you get the external clock? My electronics supplier only stocks regular 555's that only go up to 150khz... |
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bugbrand
Joined: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 846 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:32 am Post subject:
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I started off using hispeed CMOS 555s - seemed to have problems (maybe because of my poor electronics....) - wanted to use the CV inputs.
Ended up using a 40106 supersimple RC osc circuit.
One difficult thing is that you often seem to get a capacitive problem - kind of like a theremin, the osc changes speed when you get nearby - thinking 'cos its running at such hispeed and probably isn't meant to??
Bascially - what'd be ideal is a clock up to 2Mhz - but there's nothing all that apparent - higher speed clocks are available but they seem too high.
Also - you get a wierd glitch at the looppoint when you sample at speeds other than the internal clock speed (about 1Mhz)
Argh, it all drove me nutty. _________________ http://www.bugbrand.co.uk
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mi_dach
Joined: Dec 17, 2005 Posts: 133 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:36 pm Post subject:
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bugbrand wrote: | I started off using hispeed CMOS 555s - seemed to have problems (maybe because of my poor electronics....) - wanted to use the CV inputs.
Ended up using a 40106 supersimple RC osc circuit.
One difficult thing is that you often seem to get a capacitive problem - kind of like a theremin, the osc changes speed when you get nearby - thinking 'cos its running at such hispeed and probably isn't meant to??
Bascially - what'd be ideal is a clock up to 2Mhz - but there's nothing all that apparent - higher speed clocks are available but they seem too high.
Also - you get a wierd glitch at the looppoint when you sample at speeds other than the internal clock speed (about 1Mhz)
Argh, it all drove me nutty. |
I'll try some experiments with a 20mhz PIC chip emitting various fractions of its clock speed.. should be useful for shifting the pitch by semitones, fifths etc- Will report back when i eventually get around to this |
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bugbrand
Joined: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 846 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:05 am Post subject:
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That's probably the smartest way to do it actually! Yeah, micro-control - you could make power for the control as well - -> auto looping once you've recorded, improved randomisation. ...gotta learn more about PICs... _________________ http://www.bugbrand.co.uk
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