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mi_dach
Joined: Dec 17, 2005 Posts: 133 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:10 am Post subject:
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I'm wondering if the ability to change the time offset for individual steps is a useful/required feature, for creating swingy patterns and 'feel'? I mostly hope to create a sort of gentle beat with clicks and bleeps. |
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mosc
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Joined: Jan 31, 2003 Posts: 18195 Location: Durham, NC
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:11 am Post subject:
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I guess it is useful and required only if that is the case for your personal interests. I myself don't use this reature much. _________________ --Howard
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mi_dach
Joined: Dec 17, 2005 Posts: 133 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject:
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mosc wrote: | I guess it is useful and required only if that is the case for your personal interests. I myself don't use this reature much. |
Yes but I haven't created much music yet, so I'm not sure if it'll be important to have later on... what about styles like autechre, monolake, the flashbulb, boards of canada, etc.. i like the glitchy scratchy sounds, and enjoy the softer or more minimal works from these artists. Is it all strictly quantized to the beat? I may end up doing a lot of work with loops too. I'm not sure about programming drums at all.
Finally, why is 'autechre' not in the electro-music spellchecker dictionary? Thats a sin. |
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deknow
Joined: Sep 15, 2004 Posts: 1307 Location: Leominster, MA (USA)
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject:
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...i'm not sure the exact timing of individual steps is as important as gate time (step length). also, i think it's really important to either have more than one sequencer, or one that can have each "row" have a differant number of steps...i've never felt that the classic "3 row sequncer" was quite good enough, simply because the rows are glued together.
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Alexander
Joined: Apr 22, 2006 Posts: 373 Location: NL/QC
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:26 am Post subject:
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deknow wrote: | or one that can have each "row" have a differant number of steps...i've never felt that the classic "3 row sequncer" was quite good enough, simply because the rows are glued together.
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Very interesting! Have you got any views on how something like this could be organized. I'm working on building abstract sequencers in max and this is something I would like to further explore. _________________ http://husc-sound.com |
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Stanley Pain
Joined: Sep 02, 2004 Posts: 782 Location: Reading, UK
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:56 am Post subject:
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you can create interesting tempo effects and groove/feels using lfo's to control lfo's to control the length of time between each step.
anything is then possible in terms of the lengths of time of gate length and or space between each step. |
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mi_dach
Joined: Dec 17, 2005 Posts: 133 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:09 am Post subject:
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I'm in the middle of constructing my own hardware sequencer. I am aiming to send MIDI signals to PC, to trigger a sampler and send controller data. I don't own modular gear so gate and cv signals are not important. I have most of the hardware components working, and am just getting into the serious programming part now. I'm wondering if I should consider this timing offset thing, and if there is any other cool features that I should plan ahead for... |
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mosc
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Joined: Jan 31, 2003 Posts: 18195 Location: Durham, NC
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:02 am Post subject:
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mi_dach wrote: |
Finally, why is 'autechre' not in the electro-music spellchecker dictionary? Thats a sin. |
A sin?
I just added it, but I can't put every artist in the spell checker. Please ask nicely next time. _________________ --Howard
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Kassen
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Joined: Jul 06, 2004 Posts: 7678 Location: The Hague, NL
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:22 am Post subject:
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mosc wrote: | Please ask nicely next time. |
I personally read it as being a lighthearted way of asking. "sin" is such a strong word that it became a bit of a non-serious remark to my eyes.
I wouldn't lose sleep over this.
But hey, being sensitive is a very good trait for a composer, I feel. _________________ Kassen |
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mosc
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:28 am Post subject:
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Kassen wrote: | I wouldn't lose sleep over this. |
I don't think I will...
Actually... Thanks, mi_dach, for using the SpellCheck thingie in the first place. _________________ --Howard
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deknow
Joined: Sep 15, 2004 Posts: 1307 Location: Leominster, MA (USA)
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:50 am Post subject:
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Quote: | Very interesting! Have you got any views on how something like this could be organized. I'm working on building abstract sequencers in max and this is something I would like to further explore. |
...i don't use max, so i don't have a step by step method for you, but basically you want to run a number of sequencers in paralele (clocked to the same clock)...make one 15 steps, one 7 steps, and one 13 steps, and have each sequencer controlling something differant (ie, pitch, velocity, gate time).
this is really easy to do with the nord g2 demo.
the evolver has this capability built in (4 sequencers that share a common clock, but each can have it's own lenght)....of course the 4 voice poly evolver has 16 sequencers
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Alexander
Joined: Apr 22, 2006 Posts: 373 Location: NL/QC
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:00 am Post subject:
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Thanks deknow..
Once this heatwave is over and I am back to normal (suffered a heavy sunstroke), I will go and make some parallel stepsequencers of different lengths.
Up until now, I created sequencers that just ran, without any rows or steps, all I did was controlling various parameters of each sequence over time, using above described techniques, such as lfo's. Making, for example, twelve copies of those sequencers and running them simultaneously can give beautiful results. _________________ http://husc-sound.com |
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Alexander
Joined: Apr 22, 2006 Posts: 373 Location: NL/QC
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