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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:32 am    Post subject: instant gamelan Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

this is a short example of a max/msp patch I built to create scales that divide any interval in any number of equal steps and that, at the same time, creates a timbre with consonant partials (somehow proportional to the steps of the scale it is playing). I use additive synthesis with only 8 partials. this example was created dividing a 12th (an octave, 1200 cents, + a perfect fifth, 701.955 cents) in 12 steps (1901.955 cents/12=158.49 cents each step). Relating timbre and tuning is a very interesting subject Exclamation
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Interesting. If you are going to make the partials related to the note it is playing in the scale, then why not make the rhythm related too, like with a rhythmicon?

http://www.obsolete.com/120_years/machines/rhythmicon/index.html

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

the tunings that are in use in the west nowadays were born after the examination of the harmonic series then they were arranged, modified, tempered etc. to satisfy the needs of musicians, instrument builders, theorists etc. so there is a close relationship between timbres and tunings. that's why when you try alternate tunings it is hard to find pleasing timbres to play with. this patch is a very basic try of relating timbres and tunings. rhythm is completely another story IMO.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ah seraph goes Carlos Very Happy

It works pretty well already given so few partials.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
Ah seraph goes Carlos Very Happy

I wish I was Very Happy ...but then again my first name is Carlo Wink

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It works pretty well already given so few partials.

you know Jan, there is a trick Cool my max/msp patch is monophonic so I opened Logic Pro and max/msp thru rewire. I played the first track, then recorded it as audio, while listening to it I played the second one (that afterwards I recorded as audio too) then I mixed them adding some reverb Idea do I deserve a wider recognition or what Question Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

do you know the book Tuning, Timbre, Spectrum, Scale by William A. Sethares Question
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I do, actually I own it. a great resource Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Seraph,

Started listening to your microtonal studies. I really like this one. Good work!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
Interesting. If you are going to make the partials related to the note it is playing in the scale, then why not make the rhythm related too, like with a rhythmicon?

http://www.obsolete.com/120_years/machines/rhythmicon/index.html

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Ahhh! Hey Howard! We called this cowelling way back in the early 80s. Laughing As methods goes, it worked best when writing the parts. True cowelling tended to rock the boat during impro.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Seraph,

Started listening to your microtonal studies. I really like this one. Good work!

thanks Very Happy Exclamation

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