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How do I recover old DX7 patches?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 6:38 am    Post subject: How do I recover old DX7 patches? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have an archive of patches for the DX7 given to me by my former teacher, William Hoskins, before he passed away. These are on cassette tapes, in some kind of audio format. I still have an original TX7. I believe I could read them into the synth, but what then?

Does anyone know of a way I can recover these patches to some digital format where people can use them, perhaps with a soft version of the DX7? Hoskins was a master synthesist. I want to make sure these patches are not lost forever. If I could recover them, I could put them up on the patch archive.

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If you could digitize them, you'd probably find they're basically SYSEX files but represented with a kinda of square wave. Might be a fun little project.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It would be eazy to record them as digital audio, but how would I convert them to SYSEX messages? Don't I need a codec of some sort.

Maybe there is some sort of DX7/TX7 librarian program that is around for free. Do you know of any?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If you can load them into the TX7, and if the TX7 can do a midi sysex dump, then you're all set. Any librarian or midi utility type program will do.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hmm.... I am supposed to get my DX7 back in may.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Mosc.I replied in the FM7 patches thread by mistake.There is a now freeware sysex Librarian that will support dumps from the TX7 and it's called Soundlib:http://www.sonicspot.com/soundlib/soundlib.html

It will convert dumps from the DX7 into sysex files that the FM7 can read.I'd be very interested in checking out the DX patches you have.Old Dx patches just come to life with the added features of the FM7.Let me know if I can help!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks, guys. I've got enough information to proceed on this project. Seem the hard part will to get a cassette player, setting up the old TX7 and getting it to read in the patches. That was a flakey procees even in the 80s when the gear and tapes were new.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Good Luck! Sounds like an interesting project.If you need the TX7 to cassette interface cable I might be able to find the one that came with mine.Looking forward to hearing the results. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm a TX7 and FM7 user myself, and this gets my attention...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

How's this project coming mosc? Just wanted to keep it on the front burner.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OH, God, I wish you wouldn't have asked. I'm still looking for the cassette tapes. I know I have them somewhere. I'd never forgive myself if I lost them. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

On no! That would be a real tragedy.Although there are thousands of Dx patches on the net I seem to keep running into the same ones.To add new blood to the gene pool would be a blessing.Sounds like your teacher would have some gems.I still have some patches from my old teacher Cosmo Watts on the Atari format but no way to port them over to the Pc. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've got to get myself up in the attic and find these tapes. There are many of his compositions up there too. I need to digitize these to preserver them.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

how did this project ever conclude?
i can help , i'd like to gain from this experience and share sound banks
from mosc ,,
or trade ???

charles

i have many banks made form scratch for dx /tx units .. i still use hardware.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Unfortunately, nothing has happened.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

well you know i am here for you and any other tx816 tx81z pss480
owner ..
i do programming for synthesizers on my older atari computer , and have ten years experience playing with these devices,

i would love to help with the tapes , but have no hands on expertise in that area ,

what i do know is that my yamaha rx11 drum programmer has this same characteristic ,

where it can save dumps to cassette ,

and

if i study this format , should be able to decipher
your dumps visually ,,,

my aim is to have you record onto your pc using the input jack
these cassettes into ...wav files

then we can use oscilliscope or harmonic anylaser to transcribe frequencies into data...
its sounds easy but with a sound having so many different properties reading these values may take more deciphering
especially since values can be bit wise operands
and if last comes to last , you send me the tapse and i will have my buddy here in town who lectures synthesis at a local college
supervise me while i use his dx for the bulk dumps.

i only own a tx81z , tx816 , pss380...
used to own dx7 for first 4 years of tinkering.

charles

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